Willful Machines: Is AI a Threat to Humanity?

[Corvus]

Prove it.

("Prove it" means state the proposition, substantiate the the proposition is true, then make the deduction.)

I am done with you. You are being willfully absurd.

 

[Nous]

His premise is that when we meet intelligent life in the universe, it will probably have already advance to a non-organic stage. Earth is either too young or too backward I suppose.

OK, got it. I was thinking something else entirely.

 

[Augustus]

If all production of all products is automated, then how will humans earn a living?

Now you are being silly.

 

[Nous]

That type of system would become obsolete obviously.

If someone is going to provide me with food, shelter, clothing, electricity, internet, phone, transportation, etc., for free, I'm good with that. I just can't envision how that system is going to work.

 

[Nakosis]

Illogical. An exact hypothetical copy of a living human brain, functionally, just materially different, ie inorganic. Would be by definition sentient.

Not just the brain but the entire central nervous system, this includes the 5 senses.

The brain is just a part of this. If we could duplicate the CNS, would the result be self aware?

 

[Nous]

If all production of all products is automated, then how will humans earn a living?

Now you are being silly.

No, serious. Musk said everything will be automated, which will produce "social destabilization".

 

[Nous]

I am done with you. You are being willfully absurd.

You are free to scurry off. Challenging someone to prove their absurd claims is not absurd.

 

[Corvus]

If someone is going to provide me with food, shelter, clothing, electricity, internet, phone, transportation, etc., for free, I'm good with that. I just can't envision how that system is going to work.

With full automation of all production, your physical labour is largely superflous to requirements there, however that will free humanity, eventually, from the drudgery of work and self sufficiency, allowing humans to pursue leisure exploration science the arts and various vocations. Are you an Ayn Rand devotee by any chance? Something tells me you might be.

 

[Corvus]

You are free to scurry off. Challenging someone to prove their absurd claims is not absurd.

You are asking me to a prove a hypothesis? Really? It's logically consistent enough, if you don't agree, fine, like Burger King, have it your way. I don't really care. So there.

 

[Yerda]

True or false: The only way that machines will be a threat to humans is by machines developing or having a will of their own--in order to somehow prevent humans from unplugging them.

I have no idea. I did find this short film entertaining: The intelligence explosion: how do you stop a robot from turning evil? – original drama video

 

[Corvus]

The brain is just a part of this. If we could duplicate the CNS, would the result be self aware?

I can't see how you could conclude otherwise, if the replica was 'exact' in every detail, but just using different non organic materials by design that emulate the same neurological architecture and processes, as organic human brains and rest of the nervous system.

 

[Nous]

With full automation of all production, your physical labour is largely superflous to requirements there, however that will free humanity, eventually, from the drudgery of work and self sufficiency, allowing humans to pursue leisure exploration science the arts and various vocations.

Musk said that "the robots will do everything, bar nothing." Apparently you disagree.

Are you an Ayn Rand devotee by any chance? Something tells me you might be.

Your intuitions are quite wrong.

 

[Corvus]

Musk said that "the robots will do everything, bar nothing." Apparently you disagree.

They will do everything that is cost inefficient for humans to do. Humans will still have plenty of things to do. Human produced items, hand made and bespoke goods as well as services, might fetch a premium. As luxury goods/services.

 

[Corvus]

Your intuitions are quite wrong.

Good.

 

[Nous]

I have no idea. I did find this short film entertaining: The intelligence explosion: how do you stop a robot from turning evil? – original drama video

That's excellent! I'm Lucy.

 

[Yerda]

That's excellent! I'm Lucy.

Glad you liked it. The unplugging comment sparked a memory. I'm closer to Lucy's position too.

 

[Nous]

You are asking me to a prove a hypothesis?

Your proposition was: "An exact hypothetical copy of a living human brain, functionally, just materially different, ie inorganic. Would be by definition sentient." The challenge is for you to prove that your claim is true.

 

[Nous]

Glad you liked it. The unplugging comment sparked a memory. I'm closer to Lucy's position too.

I gotta say, having opinions similar to yours is always reassuring to me.

 

[Corvus]

Perhaps it might seem like extreme reductionism, but I don't see why not in theory a human brain couldn't be mapped and emulated in a highly sophisticated possibly quantum computer modeling program. Matrix style. Good stuff for sci fi ideas.

 

[Corvus]

Your proposition was: "An exact hypothetical copy of a living human brain, functionally, just materially different, ie inorganic. Would be by definition sentient." The challenge is for you to prove that your claim is true.

You want me to make a functional synthetic copy of a human brain?