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Wolverine | First Impressions
- Thread starter Trey of Diamonds
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Kcnorwood
Well-Known Member
Unless they were shooting for a 3 Hr movie your right & even still they would of left alot out of it. It's going to be intresting when it hits DVD to see what they did cut out of it. LIke I said before just the story of Origin whould of been a movies itself & well over two Hrs long.
SYNICtheAtheist
New Member
Wolverine was... ok. Its one of those things you can go into great detail to describe but there was alot of parts were there was over use of a particular dramatic scene that made everything seem cheesy. There was a few scenes where the claw effects were really really bad. there was also some great scenes like the war montage scene which i thought was incredible. Over all though it was a prety decent movie. To me though i felt like it was almost done by 2 diffrent directors because some parts of the movie flow didn't fit in with other parts of the movie. Not really sure how to explain it. I guess in final it was ok. Although i think the war montage scene was worth the ticket price in itself.
Dezzie
Well-Known Member
Well... my opinion on the movie wasn't meant to be funny, but I guess your opinion of what I feel is okay just as much as mine is. I liked the movie.
cardero
Citizen Mod
If I was to describe the film in one aspect it would be under-developed. Didn’t have time to care for supporting characters or explore situations and relationships which eventually resulted in a flat and stilted story.
There were many similarities to the recent Watchman movie. I almost expected to hear Bob Dylan’s “The Times They Are A Changing” over the opening credits and that sub-plot of Victor Creed hunting down his fellow team mates also sounded familiar.
The positive points of the film were those little comic book touches that dealt with Wolverine’s mutant abilities before the Weapon X program and post-operation. Was it just me or did his blades get bigger and more cartoony?
The movie somehow slipped away from me. It was like watching a sober man steadily walk into a saloon and suddenly, order some drinks and wobble around on drunken legs. I tried to pin down the moment that this happened for me and the only scene I could think of was when Logan ran into the farm of “Martha and Jonathan Kent”. After that, the film seemed unsure of itself.
I thought the introduction (or re-introduction) of some of the other mutants were a bit gratuitous as if they were gauging audience appreciation for possible spin-offs. It would have been better if they made these characters useful. I would like to hear from our female Remy Le Beau comic fans about their choice and portrayal of Gambit.
Acting and dialogue from some characters was a bit forced and corny. Just because an actor is in a comic book movie doesn’t really necessitate that one should act two dimensional.
Wasn’t crazy about the decision for Liev Schreiber to play Victor Creed.
I could never understand why Tyler Mane was not featured as Sabertooth. His height and profession would have made him the idea choice. Even if he couldn’t act he could have been dubbed by another actor but the battles between them would have looked spectacular. Jackman could have been awarded his “runt” title standing up to a menace of a Tyler Mane Sabertooth.
They could have easily soaked the Wolverine character for three films with the first movie dealing with his childhood, family life, his growing up the relationship between his brother and how he survived the Civil War and World Wars and ended with the Weapon X project. The second movie could have been developed to show his life with James Hudson and Heather McNeil. They could have introduced Department H, Alpha Flight and expanded to his Japanese adventures and his eventual marriage. The third installment should have been the story of his death as featured in Days Of Future Past.
There really isn’t too much to complain about. My co-worker summed it up kind of nicely and he asked me “Did it entertain me” and I honestly replied that it did on some levels. He asked “Did it tell the story about his origins” and even though I wasn’t crazy about the way they told it I still had to agree. The one thing that is hard to deny and raises the believable factor way up is the way that Hugh Jackman has embraced and evolved the character. Despite his height and build, he really does portray an effective Wolverine no matter what hands the franchise falls in. I think it was a weak headliner into the Summer Blockbuster season (easily a February/March entry) and I do not think it is necessary to repeat these Wolverine solo endeavors.
There were many similarities to the recent Watchman movie. I almost expected to hear Bob Dylan’s “The Times They Are A Changing” over the opening credits and that sub-plot of Victor Creed hunting down his fellow team mates also sounded familiar.
The positive points of the film were those little comic book touches that dealt with Wolverine’s mutant abilities before the Weapon X program and post-operation. Was it just me or did his blades get bigger and more cartoony?
The movie somehow slipped away from me. It was like watching a sober man steadily walk into a saloon and suddenly, order some drinks and wobble around on drunken legs. I tried to pin down the moment that this happened for me and the only scene I could think of was when Logan ran into the farm of “Martha and Jonathan Kent”. After that, the film seemed unsure of itself.
I thought the introduction (or re-introduction) of some of the other mutants were a bit gratuitous as if they were gauging audience appreciation for possible spin-offs. It would have been better if they made these characters useful. I would like to hear from our female Remy Le Beau comic fans about their choice and portrayal of Gambit.
Acting and dialogue from some characters was a bit forced and corny. Just because an actor is in a comic book movie doesn’t really necessitate that one should act two dimensional.
Wasn’t crazy about the decision for Liev Schreiber to play Victor Creed.
I could never understand why Tyler Mane was not featured as Sabertooth. His height and profession would have made him the idea choice. Even if he couldn’t act he could have been dubbed by another actor but the battles between them would have looked spectacular. Jackman could have been awarded his “runt” title standing up to a menace of a Tyler Mane Sabertooth.
They could have easily soaked the Wolverine character for three films with the first movie dealing with his childhood, family life, his growing up the relationship between his brother and how he survived the Civil War and World Wars and ended with the Weapon X project. The second movie could have been developed to show his life with James Hudson and Heather McNeil. They could have introduced Department H, Alpha Flight and expanded to his Japanese adventures and his eventual marriage. The third installment should have been the story of his death as featured in Days Of Future Past.
There really isn’t too much to complain about. My co-worker summed it up kind of nicely and he asked me “Did it entertain me” and I honestly replied that it did on some levels. He asked “Did it tell the story about his origins” and even though I wasn’t crazy about the way they told it I still had to agree. The one thing that is hard to deny and raises the believable factor way up is the way that Hugh Jackman has embraced and evolved the character. Despite his height and build, he really does portray an effective Wolverine no matter what hands the franchise falls in. I think it was a weak headliner into the Summer Blockbuster season (easily a February/March entry) and I do not think it is necessary to repeat these Wolverine solo endeavors.
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rojse
RF Addict
Well... my opinion on the movie wasn't meant to be funny, but I guess your opinion of what I feel is okay just as much as mine is. I liked the movie.
I respect your opinion, and in some regards, it was enjoyable. What I found humorous was the fact that you said there was no major plot holes in the movie.
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
Even though the next one is supposed to take us back to the Chris Claremont/Frank Miller era and be in Japan?
rojse
RF Addict
In Hollywood, I am certain that there are screenwriters whom are trying to come up with new, intelligent and challenging concepts for movies. And the resources of major studios are channelled into movies such as "Hugh Jackman Vehicle Movie II" AKA "Wolverine Takes on Japan using Adamantite Claws and Does Gratuitously Cool Stuff" AKA "Studio Prints Money Producing Inadequate Graphic Novel Adaptations Extremely Cheaply".
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
rojse
RF Addict
They are only going to make a bastardised sequel every three years? Why not once a year, and really suck money out of this franchise? We could have Storm: Origins, Xavier: Origins...
"at least every three years."
Dezzie
Well-Known Member
I understand.
Well... what were plot holes to you? Who knows... maybe I will agree to some.
Thanks! I love articles like that far more than film reviews. Speaking of comic book adaptations, the AV Club's Books Vs Film is great too. The recent one on Watchmen might be interesting to comic/movie fans:
Book Vs. Film: Watchmen | Books | A.V. Club
Yeah, Deadpool looks like a very different character than in the Marvel universe.
rojse
RF Addict
I understand.
Watchmen found a link and this explains the numerous plot holes better than I could (he posted it on the Star Trek thread for some reason).
Dezzie
Well-Known Member
Interesting... Honestly... from a lot of the things I read, a lot more had to do with the acting and the CGI. I am not one to really care how good or how bad the CGI looks in a movie... the acting to me, was not that bad... I have seen LOADS worse. Supposedly the timing of the explosions was off... whatever that means. Is there a timer in all movies of when an explosion should occur? I don't think so. The last bad guy to me was not stupid. I thought that was cool having a character that could do all of the stuff many others could do. I didn't really see too much about the actual plot itself... I'm not going to read that entire page of course but from the ones I read, the complaints were more of what I mentioned above.
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
Finally went to see the movie. Not bad. I enjoyed it but there were lots of parts I thought were poorly written or unnecessary changes to the regular story. I realise that the movie version of Marvel comics takes place in a universe somewhere between the regular Marvel universe and the Ultimate universe but still, some of the changes were just silly. Especially what they did to deadpool. Still, I did enjoy it and look forward to both the next Wolverine and the first Deadpool spinoff.