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Woman, 2 children die crossing Rio Grande as Border Patrol says Texas troops prevented them from intervening

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

Sick and horrifying if true.
What's sick and horrifying is parents who put their children (if it is even their children) in that kind of danger in the first place. If true of course.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Odd it is that the Federal Government won't
provide border security, & that it's left up
to individual states.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Of course you would attempt some BS deflection. Stay on topic; what are your thoughts on the Texas troops purportedly letting children drown on purpose while preventing rescue attempts?
Maybe you should go and ask a certain left wing administration that pretty much gave them the green light to come in the first place and have these tragedies occur.

Of course you would try some BS accusations totally disregarding the real enablers of these kind of scenarios.
 

libre

In flight
Staff member
Premium Member
What's sick and horrifying is parents who put their children (if it is even their children) in that kind of danger in the first place. If true of course.
Seems to me that you are refusing to confront the fact that the lives of some innocent children could have been saved but the toops actively blocked others from doing so.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Seems to me that you are refusing to confront the fact that the lives of some innocent children could have been saved but the border patrol actively blocked others from doing so.
Whenever I hear stuff like this in the media my first thought is there's more to the story than they're letting on. But I do agree with you it is a terrible tragedy, but unfortunately it was a tragedy that could have been avoided had the present administration kept the border tight in the first place instead of carelessly prompting and egging people to come in as if there is no border to begin with.

The border if you remember used to be under reasonable control untill Biden and his Puppet Masters came in the power and completely ignored the states plea for help.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Maybe you should go and ask a certain left wing administration that pretty much gave them the green light to come in the first place and have these tragedies occur.

Of course you would try some BS accusations totally disregarding the real enablers of these kind of scenarios.
That makes it okay to preventing drowning children from being rescued? That's what this thread is about, so stop spamming it and go make your own. I'm not disregarding anything, but nothing you've brought up justifies negligent homicide.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That makes it okay to preventing drowning children from being rescued? That's what this thread is about, so stop spamming it and go make your own. I'm not disregarding anything, but nothing you've brought up justifies negligent homicide.
You're right. Nothing justifies negligent homicide, but I'm certainly going to point out those responsible for making these things happen down the line of which is the worst kind of negligence to begin with

Maybe you should stop with the b******* personal commentary that you're so fond of with people that have actually a superior argument to your own.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Whenever I hear stuff like this in the media my first thought is there's more to the story than they're letting on. But I do agree with you it is a terrible tragedy, but unfortunately it was a tragedy that could have been avoided had the present administration kept the border tight in the first place instead of carelessly prompting and egging people to come in as if there is no border to begin with.

The border if you remember used to be under reasonable control untill Biden and his Puppet Masters came in the power and completely ignored the states plea for help.
Either stay on topic or leave the thread if you don't wish to discuss it, but stop polluting it with deflective spam.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
You're right. Nothing justifies negligent homicide, but I'm certainly going to point out those responsible for making these things happen down the line of which is the worst kind of negligence to begin with

Maybe you should stop with the b******* personal commentary that you're so fond of with people that have actually a superior argument to your own.
What is my argument? What argument have I presented in this thread, exactly? Unless you're saying that it justifies what happened to these children, your "argument" has nothing to do with the topic.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Either stay on topic or leave the thread if you don't wish to discuss it, but stop polluting it with deflective spam.
Maybe you should leave the thread yourself and stop habitually insulting people and making personal attacks on them like you most always do when you're losing the argument.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What is my argument? What argument have I presented in this thread, exactly? Unless you're saying that it justifies what happened to these children, your "argument" has nothing to do with the topic.
Bs.

I'm pointing out to those who are actually responsible for all of this. None of it would ever happen if it wasn't for this reckless and careless invitation for people to come in overwhelming droves.

Start recognizing that for a change.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't understand how state officials can simply "take over" an area on the border, which is clearly Border Patrol jurisdiction.

From the article:

The mayor of Eagle Pass, Rolando Salinas Jr., said during a news conference Thursday he received a phone call the previous day from a Texas Department of Pubic Safety official informing him the state was taking emergency custody of Shelby Park, which lies along the river and is in the area where the three migrants were in distress.

Salinas said a Texas Military Department official confirmed the takeover. The department directs the Texas National Guard.

The move came amid an ongoing court battle between the Department of Homeland Security and Texas over access to the border in Eagle Pass, which DHS says is cordoned off by concertina wire erected by the state. A lower court in December ruled in favor of Texas and barred federal agents from removing the barriers.

At a news conference Friday, Abbott said the Eagle Pass takeover was legal and necessary to prevent border crossings and “maintain operational control.”

The governor was criticized for remarks during a radio appearance Jan. 5 during which he said Texas was doing everything short of killing migrants in order to stop illegal crossings.

“The only thing we are not doing is we’re not shooting people who come across the border, because, of course, the Biden administration would charge us with murder,” he said.

The Department of Homeland Security on Saturday criticized Abbott’s policies as beyond everyday politics.

“The Texas governor’s policies are cruel, dangerous, and inhumane, and Texas’s blatant disregard for federal authority over immigration poses grave risks,” it said. “The State of Texas should stop interfering with the U.S. Border Patrol’s enforcement of U.S. law.”

A CBP spokesperson expressed a similar sentiment Saturday: “We are saddened by tragic migrant drownings in Eagle Pass. We remain gravely concerned by actions that prevent the U.S. Border Patrol from performing their essential missions of arresting individuals who enter the United States unlawfully and providing humanitarian response to individuals in need.”

There may not be any way to prevent states from patrolling their own borders, but they can't interfere in the jurisdictional duty of federal officers. Something is seriously amiss here.
 
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