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Women Raping Men.

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I'm talking about the USO. So no they cannot do two things at once.
Yes, America is oppressive in many ways, but if you want to see oppressiveness rearing its ugly head, I invite you to go live in places like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
Yes, America is oppressive in many ways, but if you want to see oppressiveness rearing its ugly head, I invite you to go live in places like Iran or Saudi Arabia.

I know the USO is "free"er than other nations. Still doesn't make it ok because "free"er doesn't mean free.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
I'm talking about the USO. So no they cannot do two things at once.
This logic is problematic. Their is an implication here that all crime should be ranked by importance and only the most important crime should be investigated. Are you prepared to defend this implication or would like to refine your logic?
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
This logic is problematic. Their is an implication here that all crime should be ranked by importance and only the most important crime should be investigated. Are you prepared to defend this implication or would like to refine your logic?

That happens. If I had a gang that didn't kill or exploit people then many cops would let me make a buck. Those are not my words but the words of gangsters. I do not remember the documentary I saw the interview on since it was years ago.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I know the USO is "free"er than other nations. Still doesn't make it ok because "free"er doesn't mean free.
True, but my very existence is worth the death penalty in some places and imprisonment in others. I have quite a few books, and other things such as music and movies, that are banned in other countries. I have my gripes and complaints with America, but "oppression" is not just something that comes to mind. Here, I can criticize and blaspheme against the majority religion, and I can say "**** the government," and there are zero laws and consequences for doing so. Even the last South Park game had parts that were censored in Europe. We're so unrepressed that we don't even mind if people legally purchase and use a gun without knowing anything about it or having any training with it. The fact that you have to have money to meet your basic needs is far more oppressive than the state.
 

Kori

Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
True, but my very existence is worth the death penalty in some places and imprisonment in others. I have quite a few books, and other things such as music and movies, that are banned in other countries. I have my gripes and complaints with America, but "oppression" is not just something that comes to mind. Here, I can criticize and blaspheme against the majority religion, and I can say "**** the government," and there are zero laws and consequences for doing so. Even the last South Park game had parts that were censored in Europe. We're so unrepressed that we don't even mind if people legally purchase and use a gun without knowing anything about it or having any training with it. The fact that you have to have money to meet your basic needs is far more oppressive than the state.

All the things you listed only exist in certain places. Make no mistake as soon as someone does anything the Government doesn't like they crush. As far as oppression why don't you talk to African Americans or Native Americans, they know a thing or two about oppression in this nation.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
How have I confused them with reality?
You don't seem to think women can be as bad as men and are willing to let criminals abuse the innocent as long as they fit your standard. You seem willing to punish a whole gender because of abuses by some.

Lets say a slave operation exists, many of the slavers are female and some of the victims are male. Do you feel that the victims shouldn't get any justice if they are male and the female culprits should be let free? Should this also apply to things like murder and acts of pedophilia?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
All the things you listed only exist in certain places. Make no mistake as soon as someone does anything the Government doesn't like they crush. As far as oppression why don't you talk to African Americans or Native Americans, they know a thing or two about oppression in this nation.
As a transwoman, it is legal to fire me in the state I live, not hire me, and the state (Indiana) wants to make sure it's ok to discriminate against me if someone has a "sincerely held" religious belief. It's pretty crappy. But we can rally against such things, we can protest, and we can demand change. America is far from perfect, but "oppressed" is not just something that comes to mind.
 

Parsimony

Well-Known Member
I personally don't mind getting raped by a woman, as long as she's my type and doesn't do weird acts. Even if not, I think I'm still gonna be fine.

That's my initial feeling. It also applies only for me.
If you are okay with it, then it's not rape. Rape is an act done against one's will.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
If you are okay with it, then it's not rape. Rape is an act done against one's will.

I meant I think I could cope with it. Things against will could happen and one could get out of it fine and okay. Being okay with something does not necessarily mean taking it at will. Example: I don't want to get drugged and raped by a woman, yet I think I could cope with it and not get problems because of it.

But don't mind me. This is probably just me and it's an initial thought. I could be wrong.
 

NewChapter

GiveMeATicketToWork
Hello guys.

I'm not well informed about this. Does it really happen? How does it compare to men raping women? Any real life experience around you? How would an average man feel getting raped by an average woman? You, as a man, how would you put it? You, as a woman, how would you look at raping a man and how they feel about it?

What do you think?

Don't worry, no mambo jumbo poll this time ;)

Edit:
I just found out that the expression "made to penetrate" is used for this case. What do you think about it? I also read some quick comments that it is not considered rape in USA. Any idea?

I have only seen the act portrayed in Adult cinema...how would a woman rape a man if she has no p*nis to forcibly insert...?
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I have only seen the act portrayed in Adult cinema...how would a woman rape a man if she has no p*nis to forcibly insert...?

I honestly don't know.

I keep hearing people saying women do rape men, mostly by gender equality advocates and similar groups (whose opinion I respect), and are fully capable of doing it just like men do, so I asked about it and specially sought within real life experiences.
 

NewChapter

GiveMeATicketToWork
I honestly don't know.

I keep hearing people saying women do rape men, mostly by gender equality advocates and similar groups (whose opinion I respect), and are fully capable of doing it just like men do, so I asked about it and specially sought within real life experiences.

They probably mean non-physical rape. I have heard the word "rape" used as slang to mean take advantage of & hurt someone
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
They probably mean non-physical rape. I have heard the word "rape" used as slang to mean take advantage of & hurt someone

Maybe. I didn't want to get in details with them out of fear some, even outsiders, would lose their mind and bash me for it, like how it happens for just asking questions sometime.
 
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freethinker44

Well-Known Member
I have only seen the act portrayed in Adult cinema...how would a woman rape a man if she has no p*nis to forcibly insert...?
Being made to penetrate is sexual assault. The legal definition of rape doesn't consider this rape, but the legal definition is wrong.
And the CDC has statistics that suggest men being made to penetrate may be as frequent as women being raped. I'm on a mobile device so linking to them is difficult but I posted tham in another thread recently.
 

9Westy9

Sceptic, Libertarian, Egalitarian
Premium Member
Being made to penetrate is sexual assault. The legal definition of rape doesn't consider this rape, but the legal definition is wrong.
And the CDC has statistics that suggest men being made to penetrate may be as frequent as women being raped. I'm on a mobile device so linking to them is difficult but I posted tham in another thread recently.

Hmm... this is interesting.

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
Yep, there it is.

From the second link there:
"Nationally, an estimated 1.6% of women (or approximately 1.9 million women) were raped in the 12 months before taking the survey."
"while an estimated 1.7% of men were made to penetrate a perpetrator in the 12 months preceding the survey."

Before I saw this I would have taken the prevailing view that female-on-male rape was much less common than male-on-female rape.
So apparently women are people too. Unfortunately, people suck.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
This is bad. I thought women were the reasonable ones of the two genders. But hey, this could take the eyes off of men for a while :p
 
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