Please enlighten me...what is this truth of which you speak?
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Please enlighten me...what is this truth of which you speak?
Bible truth.
The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses claim that Jesus gave the authority of the Kingdom to them before they have "endured to the end". Matthew 24:13
And of course, to believe Jesus has given them authority over all of God's belongings is to brush-off what "God has said" more than once.
Psalms 146:3
Psalms 60:11
Psalms 108:12
Psalms 118:8-9
Isaiah 2:22
Jeremiah 17:5
Isaiah 30:1
Also, the truth of your own signature there. "Let him who thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall" 1 Corinthians 10:12
The Jehovah's Witnesses make to stand their governing body which is in opposition to 1 Corinthians 10:12 Proverbs 28:26
They also put themselves in opposition to the truth at Proverbs 3:5. Of course they don't lean own each one's OWN understanding (and if truth really mattered to you @Deeje you could see that the word "own" is added to Proverbs 3:5). The JWs lean on the governing bodies' own understanding. The governing body teach opposition to the directive at Proverbs 3:5.
They also put themselves in opposition to the truth at Proverbs 3:5. Of course they don't lean own each one's OWN understanding (and if truth really mattered to you @Deeje you could see that the word "own" is added to Proverbs 3:5). The JWs lean on the governing bodies' own understanding. The governing body teach opposition to the directive at Proverbs 3:5.
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On three difference forums and a hundred posts about it, the Jehovah's Witnesses have not explained why they do not apply Proverbs 3:5 and many more similar scriptures to the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses. Why do they ignore every warning that to trust in humans for salvation will end badly?
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They ignore warnings because the source of revelations is divine???????
We obey warnings because of revelation's divine source.
The Jehovah's Witnesses make to stand their governing body which is in opposition to 1 Corinthians 10:12 Proverbs 28:26
They also put themselves in opposition to the truth at Proverbs 3:5. Of course they don't lean own each one's OWN understanding (and if truth really mattered to you@Deeje you could see that the word "own" is added to Proverbs 3:5). The JWs lean on the governing bodies' own understanding. The governing body teach opposition to the directive at Proverbs 3:5.
But these words cannot possibly apply to those who are out there all on their own, who are without a global brotherhood (Hebrews 10:24-25) or without shepherds who bear responsibility for their care? (Hebrews 13:17) Sheep need the protection of the flock because those out in the field on their own are easy prey to predators.
Who do you lean on for guidance? Your own thoughts and opinions? Isn't that going against Proverbs 3:5?
It's true. You have eliminated Jesus Christ. Jesus is my shepherd. If you had not allowed the governing body to make you blind, you would see that.
Jehovah. Who do the governing body of JWs lean on for guidance?
Please pay better attention. I use the Bible.
But you see, oh no, you can't see. I am not LEANING on what I think. YOU are. Give me convincing evidence that I am wrong and I will concede.Isn't that going against Proverbs 3:5?
Burl
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I gather from this that in your opinion the Bible is the letter of the law that latter day revelations cannot contradict.
Perhaps this is the perspective shared and the cause of Djhwoodwerks' agitation.
Probably not. I am not a JW. The JWs seem to believe that nothing can contradict them.
I have seen evidence that if The Son of God, the Christ spoke to the mind of a faithful Jehovah's Witness, but what he said contradicted what the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses teach, the faithful witness would not believe him. If Jesus has anything to say he MUST tell it to the governing body and they together have to agree with whatever he tells them and only then will it be considered "light".
True or false?
True or false?
@djhwoodwerks Thank you for the like.
They can't say it is true and they can't say it is false.
Am I a bad person for putting them in a tight spot?
They can't say it is true and they can't say it is false.
Am I a bad person for putting them in a tight spot?
I want to talk about leaning. What does Proverbs 3:5 mean that a person should not lean on understanding?
It means to rest and to rely on. It reminds me of what Abraham didn't do. It was hard to go forth into the unknown but he did it and did not rest until he accomplished what Jehovah had for him to do. He did not rely on his own understanding. If he had, he would have slaughtered his son. But he heard a command out of heaven say do not do it!
Resting people do not progress in wisdom. How can they? People who rely on dogma can not hear Heaven's commands.
Someone prove to me that it is OK to lean on someone else's understanding.
That people do not understand that to lean on the understanding of another is even worse than leaning on one's own understanding makes me certain I am an alien resident like Abraham is said to be. Amen
It means to rest and to rely on. It reminds me of what Abraham didn't do. It was hard to go forth into the unknown but he did it and did not rest until he accomplished what Jehovah had for him to do. He did not rely on his own understanding. If he had, he would have slaughtered his son. But he heard a command out of heaven say do not do it!
Resting people do not progress in wisdom. How can they? People who rely on dogma can not hear Heaven's commands.
Someone prove to me that it is OK to lean on someone else's understanding.
That people do not understand that to lean on the understanding of another is even worse than leaning on one's own understanding makes me certain I am an alien resident like Abraham is said to be. Amen
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Burl
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From the example of Saul and David we know that the Divine can mix-it-up for whatever reason. Perhaps Saul was lax on reprisals.
Burl
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We're leaning on someone else's understanding of internet protocol here as we 'speak'. That's OK; When we're 'older' we might not rely upon their experience so much.
I think I might understand you once. Yes, I am relying on internet protocol, but it isn't for anyone's salvation that I write. The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses is standing up for your salvation. What do you think of that?
Having fun, are you?
Burl
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It is convention time for Jehovah's Witnesses. This year at convention, the JWs are being shown a drama that encourages stronger faith that the time of The Judgement is very, very soon. I wonder how many years must pass after this year for them to see that the judgement is not going as planned.
And I wonder how forgiving eight million people will have to become if this system goes on and on and The Beast never acts as they say it will.
Maybe the antichrist has repented.
And I wonder how forgiving eight million people will have to become if this system goes on and on and The Beast never acts as they say it will.
Maybe the antichrist has repented.
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