Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You can be opposed to it, but you have no right to tell others how to live, and you have no right to expect other people to adhere to your religious dogma.
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Would u be happy if the brave servant of Allah was overthrown?
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No glow sticks!?!? *gasp*
Baby steps, dear. Baby steps.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
We're talking about a mosque here, so we want to keep it toned down a little.
Aquitaine
Well-Known Member
This 'universal right' you talk of, don't Homosexuals also enjoy a universal right to exist - free of oppression - in a country?
Perhaps. But as of late I have come to doubt the actual heads of state make much of a difference.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I'd be happy and worried. He seems like a despot and religious fanatic, but it would most likely cause instability. If peaceful, I would like to see it happen.
Gosh, why would anyone think such a thing?
What have they been calling secularism in the Islamic world?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Then again, I don't trust anyone who claims to speak or act in the name of any God.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
You almost made me spit Pepsi all over my monitor.
*grabs Kleenex*
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
For some reason you're always driking pepsi or having a cup of coffee when on RF. And almost always seem to be spilling it all over the monitor.
Maybe you should keep liquids away when using an electronic device.
Hmmm. I give a very good light show even for my age.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
I am very happy that Turkey managed to defeat the scum Gulenist dogs. And I hope all their schools and Universities across many countries are closed down just like in Somalia.
And I hope they enforce the death penalty on these dogs. Treason deserves death. They asked for it.
And I hope they enforce the death penalty on these dogs. Treason deserves death. They asked for it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Why? I learning so dangerous that your religion can't survive it?
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
When Islam was telling people to learn your ancestors were still in the dark ages. I think you should learn a little about Islam first.
The very first word that was revealed to our Prophet was 'Read'.
I think many westerners are very ignorant of the influence and dangers of the Gulenist mafia. Most don't even believe it exists.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Actually, I'm only joking, but one time on a lovely Saturday morning, I brought a full glass of orange juice to the computer, sat down, reached for my mouse and... you guess it, knocked the glass flying directly onto the keyboard. Fortunately, being a techie, I had another fully functional one nearby. The soaked one was a write-off. Orange juice and electrical components don't get along real well.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Yikes. So much fodder to work with here, it's hard to decide which to eviscerate first.
The first thing that stands out is dehumanizing the people in the coup attempt. Probably not the best choice of adjectives. Just sayin....
vaguelyhumanoid
Active Member
Erdogan is a loathsome man and a Daesh sympathizer. I support Rojava, so Erdogan can rot imo.
btw, the idea of the Ottoman Empire being some kind of homophobe's paradise is laughable. The Ottomans stopped enforcing criminal penalties for homosexual acts in 1856, over a century before England or the US legalized homosexuality. A common stereotype of Muslim nations among Europeans (especially the Ottomans) was that the men were all sodomites. The more you know!
btw, the idea of the Ottoman Empire being some kind of homophobe's paradise is laughable. The Ottomans stopped enforcing criminal penalties for homosexual acts in 1856, over a century before England or the US legalized homosexuality. A common stereotype of Muslim nations among Europeans (especially the Ottomans) was that the men were all sodomites. The more you know!
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
As long as it keeps Turkey out of the EU I don't care. Thankfully the Brits are leaving and they apart from the Americans were the only ones who wanted to force Turkey into the EU.
Also the Turkish secularists are at fault too, they didn't want a temporary military dictatorship to curb the Islamists back into the mosques, well now they can say goodbye of their rights as citizens. Such is life I guess.
Oh and there is literally no evidence at all that the Gülen movement is behind the coup. Obviously doesn't stop the AKP drones to attack "disbelievers" wherever they find them, even outside of Turkey.
Well you can take the violent AKP supporter out of Turkey but you can't civilise him/her.
Also the Turkish secularists are at fault too, they didn't want a temporary military dictatorship to curb the Islamists back into the mosques, well now they can say goodbye of their rights as citizens. Such is life I guess.
Oh and there is literally no evidence at all that the Gülen movement is behind the coup. Obviously doesn't stop the AKP drones to attack "disbelievers" wherever they find them, even outside of Turkey.
Well you can take the violent AKP supporter out of Turkey but you can't civilise him/her.