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Would You Vote For Hillary?

Would you vote for Hillary?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 38.2%
  • No

    Votes: 21 61.8%

  • Total voters
    34

tytlyf

Not Religious
You seem to have no problem lying about her so-called credentials. Again, "the champion of the middle class" is absolutely Hillyarious.
As opposed to the republicans and "champions of the special interests and 1%?" I'm in the middle class, I have no business voting republican.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Insult? I was just correcting your falsehoods. You can't just lie about stuff and expect others to be ok with it.

I really hate to spar with people online. Who are you saying is lying? Me, because I simply gave my view? This thread is simply asking for our opinion of whether we would vote for Hillary. I gave my answer and my reasons why. You are having to reach far by bringing in Fox news (typical), and Bush (also Typical), when I have neither referenced nor defended either. Difference here is that I will not insult a person who says they are voting for Hillary nor accuse them of lying when they state there reasons.
 

4consideration

*
Premium Member
Unwilling to act in Benghazi? You don't still believe the RW lies do you? Perhaps you missed nearly a dozen different republican committees that found no wrong doing and no stand down order? If I were you, I'd look a little further into the truth and not what Fox tells you.

But I bet you were 10x angrier when 60 Americans lost their lives during the Bush years with embassy attacks?
Where did the poster you are responding to assert there was a stand-down order?

It's a strong thing to accuse someone of lying about something he hasn't been demonstrated to have said. I'd like to see where he said it, or I'll be convinced it is you that made it up, so as to assert someone is lying simply because you disagree with them.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Yes. She is by far the most experienced and credible candidate in the race. Foreign policy expert and champion of the middle class.
How's that Libya foreign policy working out for you? How about her support of Syria's Assad in 2011, you happy with that? How about her support of the Wall Street crowd that Bernie alludes to? Wall Street is middle class?
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Where did the poster you are responding to assert there was a stand-down order?

It's a strong thing to accuse someone of lying about something he hasn't been demonstrated to have said. I'd like to see where he said it, or I'll be convinced it is you that made it up, so as to assert someone is lying simply because you disagree with them.

I agree. Apparently having a different view equals lying to some. Why not have an honest exchange of views. Its just too easy for some to be exceptionally rude from the other side of a computer screen.
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
I agree. Apparently having a different view equals lying to some. Why not have an honest exchange of views. Its just too easy for some to be exceptionally rude from the other side of a computer screen.
I agree, but then again it just occurred to me that's likely to be what some people actually like about Hillary. Kindred spirits.

edit: I wouldn't vote for her because I think she is a very accomplished liar.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I would like to vote third party probably Green Party but if I believe their is any chance Trump or Cruz could win I will vote for Hillary.

Hillary is the typical inside politician slightly left. I'm typical middle class I get screw no matter who wins.

Trump promotes violence, bigotry and misogyny whether he is or not his statements promote them. I will fight that.
Cruz wants religion in government. I will fight that.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
They blamed Hillary for the Benghazi fiasco when that has never been proven. People who think that typically think Hillary killed those 4 men. They think Benghazi was the worst attack since Pearl Harbor. This is what they say.

So if I assumed you held these same positions, I'm sorry. Benghazi is in by no means anything to judge a person on. Republicans in congress were the ones who cut embassy spending anyways which led to the situation with less security at American embassies around the world.
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
If anyone but Trump wins on the Republican side, then no. If Trump wins, then I will give an honest review of whichever Democrat wins the primary. Then I will hold my nose and vote FOR one of them.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
They blamed Hillary for the Benghazi fiasco when that has never been proven. People who think that typically think Hillary killed those 4 men. They think Benghazi was the worst attack since Pearl Harbor. This is what they say.

So if I assumed you held these same positions, I'm sorry. Benghazi is in by no means anything to judge a person on. Republicans in congress were the ones who cut embassy spending anyways which led to the situation with less security at American embassies around the world.
Take a chill pill, Sweet Pea. It's not about Benghazi. It's about Hillary's stunning LACK of real accomplishments, about her lackluster performance as a Senator, her lack of accomplishments as SecState... etc... It's about her being a serial liar. Personally, I'd love to see a female president - just not Hill Hill. Almost anybody, but Hill Hill.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
They blamed Hillary for the Benghazi fiasco when that has never been proven. People who think that typically think Hillary killed those 4 men. They think Benghazi was the worst attack since Pearl Harbor. This is what they say.

So if I assumed you held these same positions, I'm sorry. Benghazi is in by no means anything to judge a person on. Republicans in congress were the ones who cut embassy spending anyways which led to the situation with less security at American embassies around the world.

Sorry, But I will believe the testimony of the soldiers who were actually there, who survived, over any politician, Republican or Democrat. I am equally disgusted by the direction of politics from both major parties. That is where you got me wrong, assuming that I had no problem with people dying in other administrations. you should have asked my opinion before making unfounded assumptions.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If anyone but Trump wins on the Republican side, then no. If Trump wins, then I will give an honest review of whichever Democrat wins the primary. Then I will hold my nose and vote FOR one of them.

As quick as things change ,it may Bernie V Cruze.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
And Hillary doesn't?
Her record of violence is the primary reason I see Trump as better than she is.

Trump is promoting violence of the common man. Paying for lawyers to defend his voters that get in fights with protesters. Citing possible riots because he doesn't get the nomination. Saying he would like the punch the person out directly.

Hillary record of violence compares how to the last few presidents. Is it worse than George W Bush.es. I would need examples because I really don't know? But did she promote the violence or was it an reaction?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Trump is promoting violence of the common man. Paying for lawyers to defend his voters that get in fights with protesters. Citing possible riots because he doesn't get the nomination. Saying he would like the punch the person out directly.

Hillary record of violence compares how to the last few presidents. Is it worse than George W Bush.es. I would need examples because I really don't know? But did she promote the violence or was it an reaction?
She voted to start the Iraq war, & to continue both wars.
And now she threatens to "obliterate Iran".
Trump is a bouncy little puppy in comparison to old blood'n-guts Hillary.
 

Wirey

Fartist
When I look at a Trump versus Hillary vote, I thank the God I don't believe in for making me Canadian. Trump is a joke and Hillary is frightening. You're essentially faced with having your country run by a laughingstock or by a woman so mad for power that she allowed her husband to treat her like garbage just to stay in the limelight. They're both power hungry, and for different reasons, they are both very, very dangerous.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
She voted to start the Iraq war, & to continue both wars.
And now she threatens to "obliterate Iran".
Trump is a bouncy little puppy in comparison to old blood'n-guts Hillary.

That's what I thought.
How many other people voted as such and if Trump was in office at the time how would he have voted? I believe he would vote to go in.

When it comes to war I do not have all the answers and without being privileged to all the information available I can not make an accurate decision. I do not trust the media with giving me all the information. I did not agree with George W Bush invading Iraq, however, that was not an issue for my vote. I understand the decision for war involves more than one person in our country.

When it comes to war, if a war is necessary and I believe their are times it is necessary, one should go in full bore to win in as short a time as possible.
 
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