I think the point is more generally having empathy for someone who is different to yourself. You may be less invested in 'norms' than some, I suspect, but it's not exactly going to shatter anyone's earth anyway.
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X-MEN movies are Gay AGENDA?
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I think the point is more generally having empathy for someone who is different to yourself. You may be less invested in 'norms' than some, I suspect, but it's not exactly going to shatter anyone's earth anyway.
Skwim
Veteran Member
You misunderstand. It's all subliminal. Within six months of watching the movie, a year at the most, a person will be inextricably attracted to those of the same sex. Thoughts of quick, anonymous, sexual pleasurings with these people will follow. Pretty soon they will be replacing their wardrobe with clothes of a more natty flavor (men) or lumberjack fashion (women). Moreover, their speech patterns will reflect their new gender identity: men developing a slight feminine lisp, and women, a more gravely, masculine locution. The worst part is that these changes are irreversible. Good luck.
Harmonious
Well-Known Member
I have watched the video. Frankly, I am disgusted with the video author's agenda.
Fault 1) Homosexuality is not the same as pedophilia. While both are bad according to my faith, the fact is that homosexual liaisons involves consent between adults, should they partake. Statutory rape, rape, and blackmail through sex are crimes are done without consent.
Fault 2) I don't deny that there are evil people out there. And if the director of the X-Men movies is one of them, that does NOT mean that that is what the X-Men movies are about.
I read some of the older comics. The fact is that whatever Mutants are, the prejudice against them is compared to whatever the prejudice du jure is. In the 60s and 70s, it was simply racism. When folks are blue, they don't have to be black or Asian to represent visually "different" than white. In the 80s and 90s, anti-Semitism got thrown into the mix, as the plot line developed that Magneto was a Jewish Holocaust survivor. In that plot line, he was in Auschwitz, and we know this because of the number tattooed on his arm.
Today, the more celebrated prejudice is against homosexuality.
It doesn't matter what the cause is. The idea is that whatever screenwriter, director, or whomever will do, they will use whatever language is currently being used to differentiate "us" vs. "them."
The X-Men movies are NOT a plot to normalize homosexuality. It is seriously a plot to target prejudice. Whatever it is that Mutants are makes "normal" people uncomfortable because of their prejudices. Most audiences like to think they are over color differences and are tolerant of other religion. Homosexuality still is squicky, so the language used to discover new Mutants is like "coming out". It's not an agenda. It's what the X-Men have always been: Other.
Fault 3) Just because some of the actors are homosexual doesn't mean that the plot line has a "normalizing homosexuality" agenda.
Fault 4) Dear God! The propaganda of the video couldn't be more vile. Replace "gay" and "homosexual" with "Jews" and you will have a rehashing of "The Jews are taking over Hollywood" crap that floated about in the 1930s.
If pedophilia is indeed a major problem in Hollywood, it is good to uncover it and stop it. But you have to be as ignorant of the plot and cherry-pick the lines in order to come up with the trash the author of this video created.
Fault 1) Homosexuality is not the same as pedophilia. While both are bad according to my faith, the fact is that homosexual liaisons involves consent between adults, should they partake. Statutory rape, rape, and blackmail through sex are crimes are done without consent.
Fault 2) I don't deny that there are evil people out there. And if the director of the X-Men movies is one of them, that does NOT mean that that is what the X-Men movies are about.
I read some of the older comics. The fact is that whatever Mutants are, the prejudice against them is compared to whatever the prejudice du jure is. In the 60s and 70s, it was simply racism. When folks are blue, they don't have to be black or Asian to represent visually "different" than white. In the 80s and 90s, anti-Semitism got thrown into the mix, as the plot line developed that Magneto was a Jewish Holocaust survivor. In that plot line, he was in Auschwitz, and we know this because of the number tattooed on his arm.
Today, the more celebrated prejudice is against homosexuality.
It doesn't matter what the cause is. The idea is that whatever screenwriter, director, or whomever will do, they will use whatever language is currently being used to differentiate "us" vs. "them."
The X-Men movies are NOT a plot to normalize homosexuality. It is seriously a plot to target prejudice. Whatever it is that Mutants are makes "normal" people uncomfortable because of their prejudices. Most audiences like to think they are over color differences and are tolerant of other religion. Homosexuality still is squicky, so the language used to discover new Mutants is like "coming out". It's not an agenda. It's what the X-Men have always been: Other.
Fault 3) Just because some of the actors are homosexual doesn't mean that the plot line has a "normalizing homosexuality" agenda.
Fault 4) Dear God! The propaganda of the video couldn't be more vile. Replace "gay" and "homosexual" with "Jews" and you will have a rehashing of "The Jews are taking over Hollywood" crap that floated about in the 1930s.
If pedophilia is indeed a major problem in Hollywood, it is good to uncover it and stop it. But you have to be as ignorant of the plot and cherry-pick the lines in order to come up with the trash the author of this video created.
I thought that was a brilliantly funny reference to homosexuality.
But the rest of the movie wasn't so specific, ie, it was about tolerance in general....applicable to geeks, trans, nerds, race, neuro-atypicals, etc.
So no gay agenda here.
(Btw, I thought that last term was my neologism, but alas....it's already in use.)
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gsa
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As you rightly intuit, much of this anti-gay prejudice is rehashed antisemitism.
My, have things changed. Back in the day it homosexuality was caused by attraction to people of the same sex.
Now it takes complex schemes and subliminal manipulation.
Wirey
Fartist
It's the future, baby! Flying cars cause gay!
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You may want to quit watching them, because the themes of the X-Men mirror the struggles of homosexuals, keeping it to themselves and hidden from society over fears of social repercussions, and it all being over something they didn't choose but were born with, and these have always been a part of the X-Men.
The X-Men isn't so much about mutant super heroes struggling against society and mutant super villains as it about the social issues faced by minorities, their leaders, their philosophies, and their potential to be productive and good members of society. And, of course, the idea of being a product of circumstance is a major driving theme of the X-Men.
Akivah
Well-Known Member
I watched the video or at least as long as I could handle. Once it got all about jesus, I was done with it.
I also like the X-men movies and never noticed that they were pushing a homosexual agenda. Just like anything, a person can apply concepts that speak to them, to any writings. For example, here is a link to an article that relates the x-men to Judaism.
Are Jews X-Men?
I also like the X-men movies and never noticed that they were pushing a homosexual agenda. Just like anything, a person can apply concepts that speak to them, to any writings. For example, here is a link to an article that relates the x-men to Judaism.
Are Jews X-Men?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Magneto is Jewish, and he did experience the holocaust.
Aye, I found that all the more interesting when he plotted the mutants' (the master race) takeover of humans.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So merely by existing within, interacting with, or partaking in something, gays "infiltrate" it? So if a gay person eats at a restaurant because they're hungry, or gets a job at a restaurant because they've bills to pay, does that mean they've "infiltrated" the restaurant?
I don't see how that's a response to what he said...
Akivah
Well-Known Member
Magneto was a real SOB in the movies. He first approached the other mutants, pulled up his sleeve and declared "Never Again". And then later in the movie, when the mutants were charging the army, Magneto restrains his friends and says "Let the pawns die first." For a guy that claims to support mutants, he was willing to watch them die.
He is a flawed individual.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Um.. okay.
He said he wouldn't watch X-Men if gays "infiltrate" it, so I asked him what me meant by "infiltrate".
He was clear with, "Till now i havent seen any homosexual flirtings or homo couple."
Nada
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I think some might be missing the point.These X-Men movies are not supposed to show homosexual flirting or anything like that.It is done in a subtle way.In disguise so to speak.The director Brian Singer explains it in detail.There is a coming out scene.Mutant is code for gay.He makes this very clear.Also the don't ask don't tell reference in the movie.So it is not supposed to show gay scenes,as in kissing men, or things of that nature.It is a political stance on the matter.This movie is supposed to show the struggles a gay person has to overcome in order to gain acceptance.The video explains it all.