All those examples are human characters though, God is not supposed to be counted among those people as one of them.
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You need God / God needs you ?
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All those examples are human characters though, God is not supposed to be counted among those people as one of them.
You can see though that many people use the very same word "God" to describe a variety of very different things or ideas. So can you define what you think is God or what you associate the term with?
Depends on how you conceptualize time and existence, but considering humans only evolved a few million years ago and we have objective evidence that many of the gods existed long before that (like our planet, sun, moon and so forth)? That pretty much is your answer.
What generated and made possible the motions and events which resulted in the Big Bang and what the Big Bang produced?
What generated the system which makes the Big Bang occur, possible, and what comes out of such an event?
chinu
chinu
Love and need are two different things. Love is selfless, whereas need is NOT.
Do you believe the God of War, War, existed before mankind ever existed, and the Wars of men are just a form or manifestation of something which existed before they ever did?
It is indeed Maya, but what produces and moves or generates and manipulates Maya over all?
Time, space, and causation.
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chinu
chinu
God: the one who created all the the things that we see all around us.
PAUL MARKHAM
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Humans. The clue is in your post. "gods" humans created many gods throughout the Millenium.
Also depends on how one conceptualizes time and existence; considering how vastly remote the probability is of humans being the only social biological organism in the universe (we're not even the only one on this planet)? War is no doubt a social phenomena present on other planets in the universe, and almost doubtlessly predated humanity somewhere in the universe. If we add the otherworlds to that, it gets even more vastly complicated because it throws out conventional human notions of both time and existence.
Plus, there are different ways of conceptualizing and categorizing the various forces that are the gods. To some, the forces of war are a subset of something that has a broader domain. From a certain point of view, the violent forces of the universe that explode stars and collide asteroids into planets is the broader domain that subsumes concepts like war. It really becomes about what story you want to tell.
They were asking me, and in my theology, that sort of claim is about as ridiculous as they come. This is literally saying humans created life, the universe, and everything within the context of my theology.
PAUL MARKHAM
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Gods are human-created characters. Or are you claiming they are all real?
PAUL MARKHAM
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There you are you answered your own question. People make gods to suit their needs at the time.
PAUL MARKHAM
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There is no proof a god created anything. All there have is a lack of knowledge that has been in retreat for 1,000s of years. It used to believed a god created Men and all around us. That's now known to be not true.
PAUL MARKHAM
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What created the creator of the Big Bang, what created that and you can go on ad finitum. what created the big bang - Google Search
Aupmanyav
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All Gods and Goddesses are man-made concepts, not just the Hindu ones.
If I am a part of God then how does it matter? I remain a part of God in life, and merge with him after death. Nowhere any problem.
Of course, I am a Hindu and a strong atheist, since my belief is that all that exists in the universe is constituted by one entity, Brahman. And for me Brahman is not a God.
PAUL MARKHAM
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I don't know what your theology is. But if it means Humans created everything in the universe it's wrong. Humans are the result of evolution.
No you can't go ad infinitum, it only ends up ad infinitum if you're looking for more and more different physical things, eventually you'll have to come to the conclusion that the SYSTEM, whatever you consider as responsible for this moment, the next moment, the appearance of change between these moments, the movements, the progress, that this results in this, etc, that will lead you to whatever is actually "The Ultimate Power", which is not going to be some creature or physical thing or even a "set of laws that "just are"" but instead to a Chaos which has the Ability to Generate "a system of laws" and all this resulting stuff. There is no God except what is Actually Ultimately Responsible for Generating Your Experience, The System, that it moves, that it moves the way it moves and does what it does. It isn't a creature, it isn't a person, it isn't like your brain even or thoughts.