Martin
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Yes, it's transformative. I originally stumbled across it practising Buddhist mindfulness, but there are various ways of connecting.
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Martin
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Yes, it's transformative. I originally stumbled across it practising Buddhist mindfulness, but there are various ways of connecting.
BrokenBread
Member
So your indwelling by the Holy Spirit was not precipitated by any pro-active prayerful commitment, request on your part ?
Well. You're going to be left with no sure answers until you experience things for yourself true.
But others can't tell you how to experience it. There is no right way.
Since you seem sure that you want to do things in a particular fashion, go ahead. Don't listen to me
Unfortunately, knowledge isn't found if one isn't having fun on their path. You don't learn what you don't enjoy.
Thats not true,I've not enjoyed school most of my life and still learned
Sir Joseph
Member
I'm impressed with many of your responses ElytBlank which indicate more rationale and logic than I find even in older people. Glad to see you reaching out for truth and answers, but you should know by now that most influence derived from this site will not defend or encourage Christianity. Allow me to offer a minority perspective.
It appears to me that you reject evolutionary theory as an explanation for life and the universe. That alone is significant since studies show that the teaching and acceptance of evolution is the number one cause for youths leaving the Christian faith they were raised in. There's a plethora of scientific evidence supporting Biblical creationism over evolution, so you're already on solid ground there. But should you ever want or need to bolster that foundation, know that abundant books, articles, and videos exist.
It also appears to me that you want to believe in God if he's real. That's another encouraging place to be, because whatever evidence you find will be interpreted according to your preferred world view. That makes you very vulnerable now to what sources of information you seek. You'll find information easily available on the internet to support any religion, philosophy, or idea, be it truth or lies.
How then can one discern between the varous religions? By studying apologetics - a defense of each faith. This won't answer all of your theological questions, but it can certainly steer you towards one faith over the others. In the case of Christianity, it not only excels in manuscript authority, historical testimony, scientific foresight, and archaeological evidence, but in one area unlike any other: fulfilled prophesy. Once one studies and understands even a few of the Bible's specific, fulfilled prophesies, the Divine inspiration of the faith's foundational scripures becomes evident. It is, in short, the closest thing to truthful evidence - realizing a writing that can only be attributed to a supernatural being beyond time, space, and matter.
If there is proof evidence of God, then the never ending questions and complaints that skeptics pose shouldn't sway one's mind or heart away from Him. It isn't reasonable to expect mere humans to understand the mind and actions of such an awesome being. You should know though that there are abundant answers to the questions and challenges - some satisfying and some not, but none the less enough to defend the faith rationally.
Finally ElytBlank, understand that God rarely speaks to us in a physical, normal manner as we might like. For whatever reason, he has chosen to communicate with us through his creation, our conscience, written Word, and other people. If you seek him through the many paths of prayer, Bible reading, studying apologetics, watching sermons, attending church, and engaging with other Christians, you'll find your faith bolstered, your questions answered, and your relationship with God strengthened each year as you progress through life.
Tamino
Active Member
Only if we redefine "plethora" to mean "none at all"
... solved the heat problem yet, have you? Or defined the mysterious "kind"?
Yourself as well
River Sea
Well-Known Member
How about allowing to teach you?
Allow a friend in you to teach you or interpret another word: to feed you, to show you how to feed.
Allow in the midst of your situations, in the midst of your thoughts and emotions, to teach you how to feed from unconditional love—your words, holy spirit.
When I do this, I feel 'burningfire' inner peace unconditional love. (finding words explaining)
If you feel block not allowed to feed from, then in the midst of that block, allow (your words) the holy spirit to teach you how to feed from in the midst of block thoughts.
Then all is used to teach you how to feed from in the midst of it all.
I think we're all connected so no one is seperated
Borderline nonsense,regardless of who's right,Christians have been looking for evidence for 1000 years and you think they found none,there is "evidence" of all claims
Sounds like a mystical experience of some sort. Some of those can be very powerful, others more ordinary. Some religious traditions practice cultivating them while others discourage and shun them. I'm not Christian, but it's my understanding Christianity has a complicated relationship with mystical experiences because direct experience of the gods can challenge the authority of the institutional religions that developed. There was a progressive group I interacted with that was totally okay with it, so maybe if you find those peeps they'd help you follow the directions you are seeking. I think they were called the Unity Church?
Heyo
Veteran Member
I like that you put "evidence" in quotes, it indicates that you might have a correct understanding of that word.
My advice is that you don't try to be greedy. You have to decide if you want to go the path of faith or the path of rationality. You can't have both, no matter what the apologists tell you.
And I won't give you any illusions, the path of rationality is the hard one. There are thousands of science books and papers, and new come out every day. It is work to keep up. If you go by faith, there is one book, and it doesn't change. (Well, it does, but in essence it is still the knowledge base of the late Bronze and early Iron Age.)
Being rational means to never be sure. Every new piece of data may overturn a previously held belief. Science is self-correcting, and scientists see that as a perk, not a peeve.
You will have to learn logic and critical thinking. While for the faithful, "trust me, bro" is enough, the rational person needs to have a lot more. Publication in a peer reviewed magazine is only the first step. Reproduction/confirmation by independent scientists is also needed for a finding to be trustworthy.
Are you up to the challenges of the rational path?
Wherenextcolumbus
Well-Known Member
That’s fine, I just don’t feel comfortable doing a back and forth with someone I know is 14. They asked what we believe and i answered and I will leave it as that
It is up to you to make your own wise choices. I do note you have not responded to any suggestions I have put forward, and I offer, there will be no better suggestions.
Regards Tony
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That's not the case with God though, many claim God is there many don't believe there is one because they have not seen God in my view.
I would suggest in the face of conflicting claims about the cat there is nothing stopping you from walking inside to see for yourself if it's there if you prefer knowledge to trusting conflicting contradictory claims in my view.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Hello @ElytBlank
Welcome to Religious Forums
As to your question "Guide me to God, please"
The best advice I can give is the following
I have lived with my Master in India
He told us:
"To draw God near, all that is required is that you "need God". If you think you can manage things yourself, where is the need for God?
Your experience confirms the claim of my Guru. It seems to me you found the way to draw God near. As the Miracle happened when you were desperate and in need for God
My Master did give other instructions, but the above is the easiest, unless you like to be in control yourself, then the above is the hardest
Hint:
Don't ask me (or others), instead, cry for God, if you want God to Come to your rescue. I do admit, asking others seems easier, as they reply within seconds sometimes on RF
IF you want God you need to address your question to God. For a letter to arrive, you just need the correct Address + correct postage stamp
Love, Peace and Blessings to you
Feedmysheep
Member
I think maybe you're satisfied where you are.
Something about that tone . . . I don't know.