Your Favorite Prophecy? Question for all religions

[sun rise]

I could find a prophecy for all religions, but my favorite one for Islam is the following. And with alQuaeda and Daesh (IS), it's come true as I see it:

The time is near in which nothing will remain of Islam but its name, and of the Quran but its mere appearance, and the mosques of Muslims will be destitute of of knowledge and worship; and the learned will be the worst people under the heavens; and contention and strife will issue from them, and it will return upon themselves.
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Ye follower of Muhammad, I swear by the Lord, if ye did but know what I know of the future state, verily ye would laugh little and cry much.
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Men will be liars towards the end of the world; and will relate such stories as neither you nor your fathers ever heard. Then avoid them, that they may not lead you astray and throw you into contention and strife.

Sayings of The Prophet | Islamic Values

 

[psychoslice]

My prophecy is that we are all going to die lol.

 

[sun rise]

And another like it from the Hindu tradition about the Kali Yuga which I think is now departing.
Hindu Prophecies

"...deceit, falsehood, lethargy, sleepiness, violence, despondency. grief, delusion, fear, and poverty prevail..."

... men will abandon their parents, brothers, friends, and relatives. They will occupy high seats [and pulpits] and will [pretend to] preach religion.

 

[raph]

As a matter of fact, it sounds a lot more like a very general description of disease or plague than anything else.

But an instrument is something, that humans can use. Prophecies are never meant to be proves, they have to be vague.

This part needs some context. Your post makes it look like it isn't from 150 years ago. What would the source be? In which language was it originally said, and what were the terms translated here as "atom" and "sun"?

It is a mystic text from Bahaullah in persian. He may have meant the actual atom splitting or something else, or both. It is not part of the prophecy above, I just added it cause it looked cool.
Bahá'í Reference Library - The Seven Valleys And the Four Valleys, Pages 11-17

As for the 1911 statement by Abdul Baha, I find it positively disappointing. It does not really say anything of practical use or of clear meaning. Most people in 1911 would say that scientific discoveries are impressive, and the rest of what he says is in essence a statement of lack of faith on humanity. A naive one, IMO.

He talks about a force, that wasn't discovered, which can be used by humans, and could lead to destruction of the whole earth. Probably an explanation of Bahaullahs prophecy. I find the one from Abdul Baha not bad either. People have already discovered the force of bombs, the force of chemical weapons(?). He says that there will be a new stupendous force. But Abdul Baha was not a prophet, all he did was explaining Bahaullahs texts, thats why we may think, that he was talking about the text of Bahaullah I posted.

 

[sun rise]

Avatar Meher Baba's prophecy is similar:

Those who are spiritually awake have been aware for some time that the world is at present in the midst of a period such as always precedes Avataric manifestations. Even unawakened men and women are becoming aware of it now. From their darkness they are reaching out for light; in their sorrow they are longing for comfort; from the midst of the strife into which they have found themselves plunged, they are praying for peace and deliverance.

For the moment they must be patient. The wave of destruction must rise still higher, must spread still further. But when, from the depths of his heart, man desires something more lasting than wealth and something more real than material power, the wave will recede. Then peace will come, joy will come, light will come.

The breaking of my silence — the signal for my public manifestation — is not far off. I bring the greatest treasure it is possible for man to receive — a treasure that includes all other treasures, that will endure forever, that increases when shared with others. Be ready to receive it.

 

[LuisDantas]

But an instrument is something, that humans can use. Prophecies are never meant to be proves, they have to be vague.

One wonders why.

It is a mystic text from Bahaullah in persian. He may have meant the actual atom splitting or something else, or both. It is not part of the prophecy above, I just added it cause it looked cool.
Bahá'í Reference Library - The Seven Valleys And the Four Valleys, Pages 11-17

I assumed as much. That somewhat weakens the case, though. There is a lot to pick and choose from.

He talks about a force, that wasn't discovered, which can be used by humans, and could lead to destruction of the whole earth. Probably an explanation of Bahaullahs prophecy. I find the one from Abdul Baha not bad either. People have already discovered the force of bombs, the force of chemical weapons(?). He says that there will be a new stupendous force.

I can give you a half dozen just in a half hour, easily. There are a lot of forces humanity deal with. As prophecies go, that one probably does not even qualify.

 

[FearGod]

This is one of my favorite prophecies which i can see it happening right now in front of my eyes.

When Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Mas’ood asked Rasulallah about the Signs of Qiyamah, he was told: "Music and musical instruments will be found in every home. People will indulge in homosexuality. There will be an abundance of illegitimate children. There will be an abundance of critics, tale-carriers, back-biters and taunters in society. People will establish ties with strangers and sever relations with their near and dear ones. Hypocrites will be in control of the affairs of the community and evil, immoral people will be at the helm of businesses. The Masjid will be decorated, but the hearts of people will be devoid of guidance. The courtyards of Masjids will be built beautifully and high pulpits will be erected. Various wines will be consumed in excess."

 

[LuisDantas]

Abdullah Ibn Masud disapproved of homosexuality? Are you sure? And of music as well, if I understood you correctly?

Abdullah ibn Masud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[raph]

I can give you a half dozen just in a half hour

Wouldn't you get the nobel prize for naming 6 forces that have not been discovered, that could be used to destroy the whole earth? Name 1.

Napoleon III was the Emperor of the French from 1852 to 1870. In 1869 Bahá'u'lláh wrote to him in one of the five chapters that compose the Súriy-i-Haykal. In the tablet Bahá'u'lláh writes that if Napoleon III does not follow Bahá'u'lláh he will lose his kingdom and that commotion will occur in France

"For what thou hast done, thy kingdom shall be thrown into confusion, and thine empire shall pass from thine hands, as a punishment for that which thou hast wrought. Then wilt thou know how thou hast plainly erred. Commotions shall seize all the people in that land, unless thou arisest to help this Cause, and followest Him Who is the Spirit of God in this, the Straight Path. Hath thy pomp made thee proud? By My Life! It shall not endure; nay, it shall soon pass away, unless thou holdest fast to this firm Cord. We see abasement hastening after thee, whilst thou art of the heedless. "
(Bahá'u'lláh, Súriy-i-Haykal, 1869)

Within the year, in battle against Prussia in July 1870, the Emperor was captured at the Battle of Sedan (September 2) and was deposed by the forces of the Third Republic in Paris two days later; he was sent into exile to England where he died.

After Napoleon's capture by the Prussians, General Louis Jules Trochu and the politician Léon Gambetta overthrew the Second Empire and established the "Government of National Defence" which later became the conservative Third Republic. Its creation was overshadowed by the subsequent revolution in Paris known as the Paris Commune, which maintained a radical regime for two months until its bloody suppression in May 1871.

 

[LuisDantas]

Wouldn't you get the nobel prize for naming 6 forces that have not been discovered, that could be used to destroy the whole earth? Name 1.

Do they have to be undiscovered? I don't think that was mentioned previously, nor did I assume or see any indication that Bahahullah or Abdul Baha were supposed to be addressing anything undiscovered.

As a matter of fact, I think it weakens their statements if such is the case. There are ecological, political, social threats aplenty now, and that was just as true 100 or 150 years ago. Why would they be oblivious to such a plain fact, or refuse to comment on it?

Napoleon III was the Emperor of the French from 1852 to 1870. In 1869 Bahá'u'lláh wrote to him in one of the five chapters that compose the Súriy-i-Haykal. In the tablet Bahá'u'lláh writes that if Napoleon III does not follow Bahá'u'lláh he will lose his kingdom and that commotion will occur in France

"For what thou hast done, thy kingdom shall be thrown into confusion, and thine empire shall pass from thine hands, as a punishment for that which thou hast wrought. Then wilt thou know how thou hast plainly erred. Commotions shall seize all the people in that land, unless thou arisest to help this Cause, and followest Him Who is the Spirit of God in this, the Straight Path. Hath thy pomp made thee proud? By My Life! It shall not endure; nay, it shall soon pass away, unless thou holdest fast to this firm Cord. We see abasement hastening after thee, whilst thou art of the heedless. "
(Bahá'u'lláh, Súriy-i-Haykal, 1869)

Within the year, in battle against Prussia in July 1870, the Emperor was captured at the Battle of Sedan (September 2) and was deposed by the forces of the Third Republic in Paris two days later; he was sent into exile to England where he died.

After Napoleon's capture by the Prussians, General Louis Jules Trochu and the politician Léon Gambetta overthrew the Second Empire and established the "Government of National Defence" which later became the conservative Third Republic. Its creation was overshadowed by the subsequent revolution in Paris known as the Paris Commune, which maintained a radical regime for two months until its bloody suppression in May 1871.

It is odd to see Bahahullah take credit for such a predictable occurrence as the fall of Napoleon III. Odd, and not very impressive. It does not help his image, either.

 

[raph]

Do they have to be undiscovered? I don't think that was mentioned previously, nor did I assume or see any indication that Bahahullah or Abdul Baha were supposed to be addressing anything undiscovered.

They both say that this force is undiscovered.

It is odd to see Bahahullah take credit for such a predictable occurrence as the fall of Napoleon III. Odd, and not very impressive. It does not help his image, either.

I don't know if he takes credit for that. Bahais give him the credit. Who else prophecied the fall of Napoleon?

• The sufferings of Germany in two wars:[14]

"O banks of the Rhine! We have seen you covered with gore, inasmuch as the swords of retribution were drawn against you; and you shall have another turn. And We hear the lamentations of Berlin, though she be today in conspicuous glory."
(Bahá'u'lláh, Kitáb-i-Aqdas, 1873)

Note that the Rhein was quite important in the first world war. From the Rheinland, millions of soldiers were sent to the west. In 1917, Essen was bombed. The injured of the war were brought with big transporters to Köln and Düsseldorf, cities at the Rhein, and were unloaded on the train stations before the eyes of stunned people. The Rheinland was later occupied by allied forces.

The "other turn" means, that Germany was not happy about the Versail Contract, and wanted another war, another turn, to become happy again.

For the second world war "lamentation of Berlin" is quite a good description, since the war really ended, when Berlin has fallen and Hitler has killed himself in Berlin.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Religious types regularly make predictions about the world ending, but they've all been wrong so far. And didn't the new-agers tell us that world was going to end in 2012? It's frustrating because I am trying to plan my retirement and I would like some reliable information on the world ending, not guesswork.

 

[Tumah]

My favorite is Isaiah 54:1-8
This is 6-8

For 'like a forsaken and depressed wife', G-d has called you.
'And the wife of [one's] youth - can she be despised?' says your G-d.
For a small moment, I have forsaken you
And with abundant mercy, I will gather you
In a bit wrath, I hid my face a moment from you
And with eternal kindness, I will have mercy on you
-Says your Redeemer, G-d.​

I think the poetic imagery is very beautiful. We've just come out of a chapter framed in hindsight discussing the hardships that Israel went through in exile. A small taste of the future redemption. And now this chapter, spurring us to hold on for that time.
It evokes a feeling of mutual longing for the fresh love of a new couple and yet the sense of a deep ever present love through hardship. There's a sense that, this difficult time, even though it seems so long, is only a moment when compared to the larger picture. And through it all - thick and thin, the sense that the focus was always you, my love.
I like it very much.

 

[Jumi]

I believe it to be an amazing prophecy and i understand it very well to be so, how you think of it is returns to you.

Maybe. If I read it as not literal to me it seems the Hadith was talking about people who have wrong priorities. Poor people building tall houses when they don't even have clothes. It's actually quite smart. You know the end will come for people who think like the shephards in this one.

 

[Jumi]

Many people could have predicted the fall of Napoleon III. I also predicted(or rather had studied the situation and knew likely outcomes) that the invasion of Iraq would lead to widespread violence and chaos in middle east. I don't think I was even in a small group, lots of people saw the chaos coming, but what happened exactly was anyone's guess.

 

[Tumah]

Many people could have predicted the fall of Napoleon III. I also predicted(or rather had studied the situation and knew likely outcomes) that the invasion of Iraq would lead to widespread violence and chaos in middle east. I don't think I was even in a small group, lots of people saw chaos coming, but what happened exactly was anyone's guess.

The other possibility is that you are actually a profit and just don't know it yet. Would you mind giving me lotto numbers for Powerball?

 

[Jumi]

From my experience atheists have no problem with Baha'ullah, so they won't agree or disagree.

I did read about him once, when someone gave me the atom/sun line before. I think he was trying hard to get people into it. While some teachings are nice(like in all religions) and it was more modern I wasn't convinced about it.

 

[Jumi]

The other possibility is that you are actually a profit and just don't know it yet. Would you mind giving me lotto numbers for Powerball?

I never do lotto, maybe that's why my predictive powers are so strong.

 

[leibowde84]

Do you think any atheist will disagree with you ?
I don't think so, but who knows......., just to prove me wrong.

This actually is an impressive prophecy. When an atom is split you get a nuclear explosion, the opposite (but very similar looking) event that occurs in the sun. While it is still somewhat vague, it is not something that anyone could have easily predicted, such as the competition to build the tallest building, which has been ongoing since long before Muhammad.

 

[leibowde84]

I find this very good:

Almost 150 years ago Baha'u'llah said:

"A strange and wonderful instrument exists in the earth; but it is concealed from the minds and souls. It is an instrument which has the power to change the atmosphere of the whole earth, and its infection causes destruction." (Lights of Guidance, #1585)

"Split the atom's heart, and Lo!
within it thou wilt find a sun."

This prophecy was reiterated by 'Abdu'l-Baha in an interview which he gave to the Japanese Ambassador in Spain, Viscount Arawaka, and his wife, during his sojourn in Paris-October, December, 1911, and recorded by Lady Blomfield. He said:

"Scientific discoveries have greatly increased material civilization. There is in existence a stupendous force, as yet, happily, undiscovered by man. Let us supplicate God, the Beloved, that this force be not discovered by science until Spiritual Civilization, i.e. the Kingdom, shall dominate the human mind. In the hands of men of lower material nature, this power would be able to destroy the whole earth."

I like this prophecy. I think this one actually is pretty impressive ... almost eerie to tell you the truth. A bit better than just "predicting" that men will compete to build the tallest building in the world ... something that could have easily been expected.