your religion is not important

[izzy88]

Turn that around, then.....if you are religious, nobody cares...stop talking about what you believe.

If someone believes that they have information which will lead you to a life of joy and meaning (which some believe could even continue after death), isn't it a good thing if they care enough to try to share that with others?

On the other hand, if you simply do not believe that life or existence has any inherent purpose or meaning, what is your motivation to try to convince others of this?

The old saying "Misery loves company" comes to mind.

Trying to share your joy with someone isn't at all the same as trying to take someone else's joy away from them.

 

[Cooky]

I personally care about other people's religions and how they feel about mine.

Why?

 

[Cooky]

I think its a little more complicated than what you are saying.

As a Jew, what I hope for the world is ethical monotheism. So yes, I definitely care what others believe. If for example, they believe in a pantheon of Gods that don't care about their personal relative morality, I am very concerned for them. So please don't say "nobody" cares, since I am a somebody.

It is also true that I thin that all Jews are bound by a covenant with God, whether they want it so or not. So for them to observe Judaism matters a great deal.

On the other hand, let's say there is a non-Jew. I don't think it matters if this person is a Muslim, or Christian, or Lakota traditionalist. They believe in the Creator and in having good sound ethics. The specifics are not critical.

Why is it your concern that others believe in a monotheistic God?

 

[lukethethird]

your religion is not important
True.

 

[Cooky]

Then you may sign out permanently.

I'm well aware of my options. You sound like a Christian.

 

[Quagmire]

Your religion is more not important than mine is.

 

[Cooky]

Today I learned I'm nobody.

I always knew you were a fast learner.

 

[Revoltingest]

more than that.....

what?...no Jews in heaven?
Moses didn't make it after all?

and Jesus was a Jew

and no Muslims?
as if Muhammad was unworthy?

no Buddhists?
no polygamists?
no Scots?
@Revoltingest

I don't think heaven gives a damn
but then again
They might

Scots in Heaven...are you crazy.
They'd trash the place.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Why is it your concern that others believe in a monotheistic God?

You mean besides it being true?

As I said in my previous post, ethical monotheism provides a consistant, objective morality, rather than a wishy washy relativism. You don't end up in conundrums such as having to admit that in relativistic terms had Hitler won the war, killing six million Jews would have been the good thing to do.

So what is someone who identifies as Catholic doing challenging monotheism?

 

[Cooky]

You mean besides it being true?

As I said in my previous post, ethical monotheism provides a consistant, objective morality, rather than a wishy washy relativism. You don't end up in conundrums such as having to admit that in relativistic terms had Hitler won the war, killing six million Jews would have been the good thing to do.

So what is someone who identifies as Catholic doing challenging monotheism?

I don't challenge monotheism. It's just not my goal to convince other people of it.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I don't challenge monotheism. It's just not my goal to convince other people of it.

Hmmm. Just seems odd to me. Its not what your church teaches you to do. But then again, many Catholics just don't do what their church says, eh.

 

[Cooky]

Hmmm. Just seems odd to me. Its not what your church teaches you to do. But then again, many Catholics just don't do what their church says, eh.

My Church does not teach me to go around convincing people of monotheism. No.

...I've never had a priest or any kind of spiritual leader tell me to do that, and I've attended decades of Catholic schooling (from grade school to H.S.), seminars and over a decade of private study.

 

[Agnostisch]

Religions are multiple but humanity is the same.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

My Church does not teach me to go around convincing people of monotheism. No.

...I've never had a priest or any kind of spiritual leader tell me to do that, and I've attended decades of Catholic schooling (from grade school to H.S.), seminars and over a decade of private study.

Your church tells you to go preach the gospel to every creature. Part of the gospel is that there is One God that cares how you behave, aka ethical monotheism. Are you debating this?

 

[Cooky]

Your church tells you to go preach the gospel to every creature. Part of the gospel is that there is One God that cares how you behave, aka ethical monotheism. Are you debating this?

How do you figure you know what my church tells me? No priest has ever told me that.

 

[paarsurrey]

Why is it your concern that others believe in a monotheistic God?

What is the harm to believe in truthful Oneness, please?

Regards

 

[IndigoChild5559]

How do you figure you know what my church tells me? No priest has ever told me that.

I've studied all the world's big religions. I've certainly studied Christianity, especially Catholicism. I've read your Christian scriptures several times. Evangelization is a core teaching of Christianity since that mythic day of Pentecost, although its emphasis goes in and out of fashion. Currently it is a trendy thing again in Rome. About the only people Catholics are NOT supposed to evangelize are Jews. Please visit the following official Catholic site: New Evangelization

Why has no priest ever told you that? Because the homilies given at the Mass are bare bones basic stuff. They are not adult level education. The priests I have talked to say that adult Catholics are responsible to educate themselves by reading books and keeping in tough with the goings on. Occasionally parishes offer seminars and classes, but attendance is a mere pittance. Most Catholics seem to feel they don't need anything past Confirmation.

Often I find many Catholics in forums are a cut WAY above. I learn a lot about Catholicism talking to them. And they do help me keep abreast of the major things going on in their church (such as the New Evangelism). We have some really excellent well taught Catholic apologists here in Religious Forums.

 

[Jim]

I don't challenge monotheism. It's just not my goal to convince other people of it.

Is that why you started this thread? Are you protesting against people promoting and defending their religions, or maybe the ways that they do it sometimes?

 

[Cooky]

What is the harm to believe in truthful Oneness, please?

Regards

I never said there was harm in it. So I can't answer that question.

 

[Cooky]

Is that why you started this thread? Are you protesting against people promoting and defending their religions, or maybe the ways that they do it sometimes?

I haven't learned anything new or had a positive experience discussing religion in a very long time.

...Usually it's people talking over other people to get their own points of interest across. There's nothing productive or truly friendly in that, IMO. It all seems agenda based, which comes off as insincere to me -the real sincerety being to do God's work.