With the one exception of the witch of Endor who raised up the spirit of Samuel for King Saul. Granted that totally backfired on Saul.
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Your thoughts on ''mediums?''
- Thread starter Deidre
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With the one exception of the witch of Endor who raised up the spirit of Samuel for King Saul. Granted that totally backfired on Saul.
I believe that those mediums like we see on TV are no different than the faith healers. Preying on the emotions of people in their time of loss. They use the same techniques as magicians. I recommend that you watch the documentary "An honest Liar".
Do you want to shoot me now or later?
I don't understand.
I know you don't.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I'm serious. Why would you ask me if I "wanted to shoot you now or later"? Do you know of other places in the bible when a medium was successful? Do you disagree with the fact that it didn't go well with Saul? What point are you trying to make?
The spirit in the account wasn't dead.
Samuel was dead. Absent from body.
She said what are your thoughts about people contacting dead ones.
I said the Bible says that dead people are not conscious.
So then, people said something about paper plates and mentioned Saul calling on Samuel and Jesus appearing with Moses and Elija and I said yes, OK, but those three didn't come from the dead place.
Because? To Jehovah, all are living.
And then I say "shoot me" or maybe you think "people suck" might be better?
I said the Bible says that dead people are not conscious.
So then, people said something about paper plates and mentioned Saul calling on Samuel and Jesus appearing with Moses and Elija and I said yes, OK, but those three didn't come from the dead place.
Because? To Jehovah, all are living.
And then I say "shoot me" or maybe you think "people suck" might be better?
So then, teaching opposed to Jesus' words are ok with you. It is noted. Thank you for talking to me.
Some help for you:
Time is relative, and flexible and, according to Einstein, "the dividing line between past, present, and future is an illusion". So reality is ultimately TIMELESS. This sounds pretty bizarre from the view of classical physics, but from the view of consciousness theory and spirituality, it fits in perfectly.Jan 1, 2014
Time is relative, and flexible and, according to Einstein, "the dividing line between past, present, and future is an illusion". So reality is ultimately TIMELESS. This sounds pretty bizarre from the view of classical physics, but from the view of consciousness theory and spirituality, it fits in perfectly.Jan 1, 2014
Um, sure. Anytime.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
It's one of a myriad of scams employed by charlatans and whack-jobs to take advantage of credulous and vulnerable people. I suppose some people actually get comfort out of this, but they are still being taken advantage of.
The methods and processes of "cold reading" are well documented and understood, and a brief viewing of most "mediums" reveals that they are employing these techniques (whether consciously or not), albeit, usually very poorly and embarrassingly.
Ok, I see where your coming from.
I just want to add that to Jehovah all that are presently dead NOW are not alive to us now.
I mean that they are not somewhere without their flesh, but alive to Jehovah there.
They are alive NOW to Jehovah NOW where they were when they were alive on Earth.
You know! Before they died.
I mean that they are not somewhere without their flesh, but alive to Jehovah there.
They are alive NOW to Jehovah NOW where they were when they were alive on Earth.
You know! Before they died.
Do you?
A test for you.
Alive to Jehovah means
1. after they died they went somewhere to keep living
or
2. All of the creation is just an instant of time to Jehovah, so everyone lives, you know, NOW.
james bond
Well-Known Member
What about those who try to communicate with aliens?
"Those who do it for a price: Con artists.
.....Those who do it for non-monetary personal reasons: Crack pots"
james bond
Well-Known Member
"They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise; therefore hast Thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish." -- Isaiah 26:14
Are you sure they're referring to the regular deceased in this verse? It seems like it's reserved for the wicked.