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You're an atheist just like me.
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jacquie4000
Well-Known Member
HI Logdog welcome to the Forums and enjoy.
Comprehend
Res Ipsa Loquitur
LogDog said:
*wonders if it is really worth the trouble of explaining why this is so obviously wrong...*
matthew.william
Member
LogDog said:
An athiest is defined as, "One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods." (American Heritage Dictionary). So already, you are incorrect. I do believe in a God, thus I am not an atheist. Also, Islam is considered an Abrahamic religion, just like Judaism, and Christianity. Same God, different views.
~matthew.william~
astarath
Well-Known Member
to believe in any god, religion or spiritual existince would be defined as theism.
Those who believe in one or all of these are theists.
Those who believe in none of them are atheists.
To have a belief of any kind in a theological sense and deny the validity of another that either contradicts your existing belief or merely doesnt appeal to you does not make you an atheist but merely a theistic-human.
So I suppose the congratulations going out would be to congratulate them on being a theistic human
Those who believe in one or all of these are theists.
Those who believe in none of them are atheists.
To have a belief of any kind in a theological sense and deny the validity of another that either contradicts your existing belief or merely doesnt appeal to you does not make you an atheist but merely a theistic-human.
So I suppose the congratulations going out would be to congratulate them on being a theistic human
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
Spinks (and other atheists) have made a similar arguments in the past. Everyone is an atheist in that everyone rejects all the gods in which they don't believe. What we usually call an atheist just rejects one more than everyone else. (The argument kinda assumes monotheism.) It's mostly a semantic argument but it does have a point.Buttercup said:
standing_alone
Well-Known Member
Buttercup said:Except that atheism is a non belief in God. Rejecting a God other than yours is a weird way for Spinks or anyone else to describe atheism. I never have understood that logic.
I think that argument is usually directed at people who find it hard to "believe" that someone could not believe in their God, so the atheist would point out that not believing in their god is the same as them not believing in others.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
First of, this is what we argued about the last time we argued. I was saying that someone who rejects (ie - is angry at) God is not a true atheist.Buttercup said:Except that atheism is a non belief in God. Rejecting a God other than yours is a weird way for Spinks or anyone else to describe atheism. I never have understood that logic.
Second of all, you are right. I didn't state the above argument correctly. :slap: Let me rephrase:
Everyone is an atheist in that there is always some god in which they don't believe. What we usually call an atheist just believes in one less than everyone else.
standing_alone
Well-Known Member
Buttercup said:
Hmmm... Well I never thought that the atheists who use this argument are calling Christians atheists, so much as they are trying to show that concerning other Gods than their own, Christians are atheists in that respect. Like they are atheists concerning any Pagan gods/goddesses. It's not like they mean they are totally atheist. At least that's typically how I've seen it used.