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You've Got To Be Kidding?

Brian2

Veteran Member
I have heard plenty of stupid ideas, but his one ranks right near the top.
The old adage "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink" fit's this one.
Biden is considering sending every American a face mask through the post, according to a new report

Just one face mask?
Surely they are readily available. But if mandatory then it is good for legal reasons to take away excuses,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but it does seem like a stupid idea------unless the President has a relative or friend who makes face masks.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Fun fact - the old adage is rendered obsolete and incorrect by contemporary research in the social sciences. In simple terms, lot of human behavior is shaped by environmental factors. For example, accessibility. This is why accessibility for the disabled is important, it's why access to health care is important, it's why access to public education is important, and yes, even something as simple as access to masks at no costs is important. All of these things can and do influence human behavior through the environment. Social sciences 101. I'd say surely those who don't grasp this are kidding, but then I remember social sciences 101 isn't really taught in public schools (ironically, another problem of access).
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Seems a waste of time and money. How much would this initiative cost?

By now, cheap masks are readily available. If someone's OK with wearing them they already are. If they object to masking, giving them one isn't going to motivate them to wear it.

There's also an issue with fit. Most people don't seem to realize this is a consideration. Sending a generic mask would be like sending a generic bra or pair of shoes. One size doesn't fit all.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It's best demonstrated by "pissed off redneck conservative" I saw in Indiana. He fuses up a storm the the ADA that Obama signed into law says he doesn't have to wear a mask because of his COPD. He goes outside this store and lights up a cigarette.
They really, truly believe that having to wear a mask is against their rights and freedoms. It's funny because businesses in Indiana will tell you there is nothing they can do about people not wearing a mask, but they sure have wanted to make sure they can do something about them gays coming in.
Do you believe the government can require its citizens to wear condoms and diaphragms?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Do you believe the government can require its citizens to wear condoms and diaphragms?
That's an odd question.
And, no, it should be up to the couple as their decisions and choices in reproduction generally are not spreading disease to others.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
I have heard plenty of stupid ideas, but his one ranks right near the top.
The old adage "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink" fit's this one.
Biden is considering sending every American a face mask through the post, according to a new report
What's the point of this? Does Biden really think that the reason people aren't wearing face masks is because they can't afford one? Especially when most businesses have free face masks when you enter the door anyways?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It's best demonstrated by "pissed off redneck conservative" I saw in Indiana. He fuses up a storm the the ADA that Obama signed into law says he doesn't have to wear a mask because of his COPD. He goes outside this store and lights up a cigarette.
They really, truly believe that having to wear a mask is against their rights and freedoms. It's funny because businesses in Indiana will tell you there is nothing they can do about people not wearing a mask, but they sure have wanted to make sure they can do something about them gays coming in.
Oh the irony!

To be fair it is rather difficult to quit once you start. I was lucky to get away with low level COPD. Very controllable. Smoke free for twelve years.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Seems a waste of time and money. How much would this initiative cost?

By now, cheap masks are readily available. If someone's OK with wearing them they already are. If they object to masking, giving them one isn't going to motivate them to wear it.

There's also an issue with fit. Most people don't seem to realize this is a consideration. Sending a generic mask would be like sending a generic bra or pair of shoes. One size doesn't fit all.
Cloth masks especially.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Oh the irony!

To be fair it is rather difficult to quit once you start. I was lucky to get away with low level COPD. Very controllable. Smoke free for twelve years.

What is low level COPD? Is that your own term you made up?

Clinical diagnoses are as follows..

Group A: Low risk, less symptoms
Group B: Low risk, more symptoms
Group C: High risk, less symptoms
Group D: High risk, more symptoms

I myself am in group B.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Oh the irony!

To be fair it is rather difficult to quit once you start. I was lucky to get away with low level COPD. Very controllable. Smoke free for twelve years.
I wasn't a heavy smoker (about half pack a day), and even then had many on-again-off-again runs with them. Switching to vaping though did make it much easier, with me even being able to give that up much easier than cigarettes (I have even read a study that suggests this may be a normal thing). And I pretty much only pick it up during particularly stressful times in my life (like when I worked as a case manager, or for about a week after my brother died) and then I'm done with it again.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What is low level COPD? Is that your own term you made up?

Clinical diagnoses are as follows..

Group A: Low risk, less symptoms
Group B: Low risk, more symptoms
Group C: High risk, less symptoms
Group D: High risk, more symptoms

I myself am in group B.

Low level is my own term. I am told by my doctor that I have it, no groups were mentioned and the groups appear to be a fairly recent terminology. I am probably in group A. I am on daily corticosteroids, Flovent to be specific, and albuterol as an emergency medication.

Like I said, when it came to smoking I got off lightly. The damage is there but not at a high level. Cold weather can set off a mucus attack. When I go out on some days a handkerchief becomes a toxic wastefield in no time. But after a few minutes I am either out of phlegm or my lungs adjust.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Low level is my own term. I am told by my doctor that I have it, no groups were mentioned and the groups appear to be a fairly recent terminology. I am probably in group A. I am on daily corticosteroids, Flovent to be specific, and albuterol as an emergency medication.

Like I said, when it came to smoking I got off lightly. The damage is there but not at a high level. Cold weather can set off a mucus attack. When I go out on some days a handkerchief becomes a toxic wastefield in no time. But after a few minutes I am either out of phlegm or my lungs adjust.

If you are on a daily steroid, with a backup rescue inhaler, in my opinion, you are higher than group A. I'm in group B and use combivent when needed which is about 2-3 times per month.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I wasn't a heavy smoker (about half pack a day), and even then had many on-again-off-again runs with them. Switching to vaping though did make it much easier, with me even being able to give that up much easier than cigarettes (I have even read a study that suggests this may be a normal thing). And I pretty much only pick it up during particularly stressful times in my life (like when I worked as a case manager, or for about a week after my brother died) and then I'm done with it again.
When I quit I made sure that it stuck. I had managed to quit once before, but like you a high stress situation caused me to start again. When I quit the second time I had a bit of a negative reaction. I got a serious asthma attack that put me in the hospital for three days. That was good enough for me. No going back after that.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I have one as well. My Dr got me one. Its a pulse-ox I believe. My oxygen level is usually 97%-98%. Sometimes if I set and huff and puff I can get it to 99%
They are pretty cheap today. I was about to say twenty bucks, but then I looked them up and Walmart has one for only nine.
 
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