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You've Got To Be Kidding?
- Thread starter esmith
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We Never Know
No Slack
No offence meant but you must have a cheap one. Mine is a Nonin Onyx. They start around $175
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Possibly, but you said your doctor got yours. Medical equipment can be grossly overpriced when one goes the insurance route. The insurance company does not pay that full price, but an uninsured person would.
This is mine:
Baseline 12-1926 Fingertip Pulse Oximeter-Standard
About forty bucks "wholesale". Or so they claim.
Look up the model number and brand on yours. You may be surprised.
Also how old is yours? This is the sort of technology that starts expensive and gets cheaper over the years.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No need:
Nonin Onyx Pulse Oximeters: Vantage 9590, 9560 & More
Made in the USA. And Bluetooth, aren't we fancy.
Yes, it has more features, but the accuracy is probably about the same.
Nonin Onyx Pulse Oximeters: Vantage 9590, 9560 & More
Made in the USA. And Bluetooth, aren't we fancy.
Yes, it has more features, but the accuracy is probably about the same.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Isn't the key word "considering" - when he does it, he can be criticised. He will be considering many things
Bought one of these recently - joining the panic - and hopefully not needing to use it.
And the mask offerings? At least they can't complain they haven't got one.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Seems you're not a fan of science. I would assume you'd be the horse in this situation?
In that case, give the mask to someone who is more patriotic.
To send one mask to each person would have a high cost per mask.
Better would be to get a supply of masks (preferably reusable) to
groups in need.
Sending me a mask would be a waste....I have boxes of them.
I agree. It would be much more reasonable to put the cost on industry.
It would be a simple matter for Biden to amend OSHA rules so that masks are required PPE for all indoor workplaces with more than one person. That would put the cost for masks on employers who are creating risky situations.
It wouldn't get masks out to everyone, but it would get masks to a large proportion of the population without having to use any taxpayer funds at all.
Edit: it would also ensure that masks get worn... at least in workplaces.
So then you do believe there are limits to what a government can and can’t do. The anti-maskers feel the same. Everyone just draws the line at different places along the spectrum.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Me too. This is an example of "Do something disease". We have a pandemic we have to do something!
Seriously it will not help all that much for the reasons given in this thread and will be largely a waste of money. It would be better to invest those funds in purchasing and distributing vaccines. Any decent business is going to have extras. I walk to my nearest Safeway. There is no need to mask outside in the suburbs since social distancing is extremely easy. It is up close and personal that the virus becomes a threat. A few times I have walked all the way and found that I did not have a mask. Early on I would turn around and walk home. And then I noticed that they gladly handed out masks to those that requested them. I would go in with a makeshift "mask" of my jacket and request one and hey presto! I was masked and perfectly acceptable. Businesses do not want to lose a customer due to not having a mask that costs them 50 cents tops.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Doesn't matter. Your rights end where your neighbors nose begins. Being not wearing masks and not staying apart, they are violating their neighbors by spreading a deadly virus, overloading hospitals, and diminishing quality of care for everyone, preventing some from getting treatment, and preventing some people from having a chance at having their life saved. These consequences are a result of not wearing masks and not refraining from gatherings and they effect us all, not just those who are irresponsible and negligent pandejos.
The anti-maskers seem to be uniquely hypocritical in their position, though.
On the one hand, they argue that the government shouldn't impose rules on individuals about mask-wearing, but then they also throw hissy fits when they find themselves in a business that has decided for itself to have a policy requiring masks.
The only real consistency in their position seems to be a consistent rejection of common sense.
ecco
Veteran Member
So, I looked up...
There were many references to that quote. The quote was always preceded by a brief story about sending masks to everyone. However, none of the stories show her making this comment in direct response to a quoted question about sending facemasks to everyone. Curious.
“There are a range of options on the table to help protect more Americans from the coronavirus and encourage people to mask up, but no decision has been made,” said Jen Psaki, White House press secretary.
There were many references to that quote. The quote was always preceded by a brief story about sending masks to everyone. However, none of the stories show her making this comment in direct response to a quoted question about sending facemasks to everyone. Curious.
But can a civil society survive everyone doing their own thing; everyone choosing where to draw the line?
Being anti-social, even in a band of a dozen, Pleistocene hunter-gatherers (our natural state), is quickly corrected.
Being anti-social in a complex, diverse, civilization might be easier to get away with, but it's just as harmful -- and on a larger scale.
Society must protect itself if it's to survive. Dangerous, anti-social acts like burglary, murder, speeding or not wearing a mask threaten society's well being.
Why draw the line at masking? Why not allow speeding, polluting waterways, or purse-snatching, as well?
Perhaps unfortunately, millions of people cannot live together without coercive restraints of some kind.
If you want total freedom go live alone in the woods. Behavioral license is not feasible in society.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
There's always an angle to everything.
I guess the point is lost on you. I agree we should all be wearing masks, but .....whatever.
I can agree with that.
True. But where do we go when different groups of people all think they no better than the others as to where to draw the line? To reiterate, we’re not talking about the boundaries of common sense but of constitutionally imposed governmental limitations.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I get the point. It's not lost on me. I view it as invalid, not worth considerations, and I invite these types to go to places like China where they can witness firsthand what an overbearing, repressive, and tyrannical state looks like.