Zelensky says the war will end faster under Trump

[TagliatelliMonster]

Yeah...
like the Nazis who said: 2 years after the beginning of WW2. The reason is leverage.
That's as credible as the Nazis lies.

What a stupid thing to say.

 

[Godobeyer]

Absolutely not.
Russia doesn't intend to take possession of Ukraine.
Russia's goal is to prevent future attacks from Ukraine, and since Ukraine will join the EU, the EU will fight against the warmongers in that land.
Corrupt warmongers bribed by a cabal of bankers.

Russia just take some of Ukraine, will continue. Until finish it.
That's my opinion.

No. Trump wants peace. World peace.

You innocent mind extra optimistic .
I wish i would be wrong.
Trump will continue the wars in Ukraine and Palestin.
And believe will start new war for israel against Iran, and new war for USA against China

 

[Godobeyer]

@Estro Felino i just heard in news that Biden allows to Ukraine to launch missiles against Russia.
And Russia warning it's ww3.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Qaddafi was plan to make new world currency.
He rebellion against West so that's why NATO killed him by name of democracy.
Turn Libya to civil war since 2011

Gaddafi was killed by Lybian rebels, not by NATO.
And the civil war as already ongoing. It's his death that sparked it.

 

[Godobeyer]

Gaddafi was killed by Lybian rebels, not by NATO.
And the civil war as already ongoing. It's his death that sparked it.

Without help of NATO,and kings of oil, there would be no libyan rebelles.

libya is next Algeria where i live, i know situation.

Many libyans regression Gadafi days.

 

[Estro Felino]

Je

Without help of NATO,and kings of oil, there would be no libyan rebelles.

libya is next Algeria where i live, i know situation.

Many libyans regression Gadafi days.

Je n'ai pas compris.
Est-ce que tu veux dire que cette organisation de guerre appelée OTAN va créer le chaos en Algerie, aussi?

Mais je le sais sur la Libye, il y a beaucoup de personnes qui savent, que la Libye avec Qaddafi, c'était un pays très joli.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The point of a political debate is trying to refute my claim.

Debate? Your claim? You ooze Putin talking points, dance around the Wagner Group and Kim Jong Un, whine about Europe being a colony of the United States, and blame Democrats peppered with Satanists and debased insidious outsiders like "Hussein" Obama. There is no claim, simply cult screed.

 

[Sargonski]

If EU don't continue war, i think
Russia will take over all Ukraine.

I hope my thoughts be wrong. The wars stops.

I listen to Arabian journalist had good predictions before.
But i think he had classified secret source.

He said Trump will assissante.
And big war will happen, probably ww3

Putin does not want all of Ukraine .. but will continue taking territory until Ukraine surrenders-negotiates Russia just wants the land along the black Sea -- Crimea obviously .. the ethnic russian regions .. the Separatist regions in the Donbass .. which he already has for the most part .. and which represents 70% of the economic activity in Ukraine .. he does not want to rule over "Ukrainians" ... and does not want the worthless territory that is left over .. with the exception of Odesa .. the only ethnic Russian Region Putin does not now control .. and only territory left in Ukraine that has strategic or economic value.

I listen to Colonel Douglas Mcgreggor - Lawrence Wilkerson - Jeffery Sachs , Alex Mercurious does an hour a day .. and watch the various "military summary channels" which cover the day to day battles and mapping showing what both sides are saying MOD Ukraine - MOD Russia.
Trump states he wants to end the war in Ukraine .. Yay ! but the Gaza Holocaust is a different story .. even the anti-war Tulsi Gabbard is towing the Zionist propaganda narrative .. and to be honest this is the war I most worry about in terms of global security .. a real possibility of nukes being used.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Putin does not want all of Ukraine .. but will continue taking territory until Ukraine surrenders

Pillow talk ...

 

[Estro Felino]

Debate? Your claim? You ooze Putin talking points, dance around the Wagner Group and Kim Jong Un, whine about Europe being a colony of the United States, and blame Democrats peppered with Satanists and debased insidious outsiders like "Hussein" Obama. There is no claim, simply cult screed.

You reassured me.
Since we are not a US colony, we will implement a completely autonomous policy than the United States.
By letting Ukraine join the EU.

But the Americans need to leave Ukraine immediately,...because from now on, we will be in charge.

 

[Godobeyer]

Je

Je n'ai pas compris.
Est-ce que tu veux dire que cette organisation de guerre appelée OTAN va créer le chaos en Algerie, aussi?

Je pense que le OTAN, ne veux pas change le regime de l'Algerie.
Europe ne peux pas recois 44 millions Algeriens

Mais je le sais sur la Libye, il y a beaucoup de personnes qui savent, que la Libye avec Qaddafi, c'était un pays très joli.

Tu as raison, nous sommes d'accord ici

 

[Sargonski]

Pillow talk ...

No thanks Jay .. appreciate the offer but, I don't swing that way. What about this Putin fixation that you wanted to tell us .. . why do you think he wants to govern "Ukrainians" .. when the land they inhabit has nothing for economic prosperity to speak of .. and thus will be a big welfare state - a drain on the Russian Economy. That doesn't seem to make sense Jay .... but you pay very close attention to Vlad ... so tell us your thoughts .. why would beloved Vlad want the worthless land full of worthless (from an economic perspective) Ukrainians ?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Without help of NATO,and kings of oil, there would be no libyan rebelles.

libya is next Algeria where i live, i know situation.

Many libyans regression Gadafi days.

You won't hear me say that the situation was handled properly.
But to glorify Gaddafi and deny his dictatorial rape of human rights, is to really set yourself outside of reasonable discussion.

 

[BrightShadow]

putin is a global security threat, and his death would solve a lot of problems.

There are different ways to deal with different threats.
Ukraine's way of dealing with their threat - is obviously not working. All they are doing is greater damage.
Their neighbors are worried that the conflict could escalate.

Ukraine need to cut its losses and find a compromise. Soon they will do just that and you will also thank Trump.

All the stuff you mentioned about Putin is noted but what do you think about Bibi?
Palestinians are continued to be oppressed. Why not do anything there to stop the oppression?
Double standards?
Bibi is self defending but Putin jumped the gun?

A totally irrelevant question. Do remember that it is a legal procedure in many states, even if you don't like it, it is legal.

It is very relevant. It shows your mindset. There is something wrong with someone who wishes death and destruction on fellow humans. It is not something to be proud of. Hence I asked if you are directly involved with abortion clinics.

You are wishing Putin to be killed!
Some folks try to justify it by thinking it's for the greater good.
They are wrong!
Premeditated planning to kill or wishing to kill - is wrong. Find other ways to deal with the threat.
Bibi killed over 41.000 in the name of defense. Was it defense or was it extermination?
I don't say anything about Bibi like the way you are talking against Putin.

Regarding Abortion:
Imagine - you went on a vacation and when you returned - you find a bird's nest on your wall light fixture. The light fixture is just by your front door. You noticed there are a couple of eggs in it. It is not a safety hazard but it is an eye sore.
What do you do?
Would you leave it alone and wait to get rid off it after the eggs are hatched and the baby birds grow up and leave the nest?
Would you take down the bird's nest right away?
Remember: If you try to relocate it then you are ruining the chance of the eggs from hatching.

Most people will leave the nest alone until the eggs are hatched and the baby birds fly away.
Why is it different when it comes to a unborn human baby?

Another example:
When a pregnant woman is killed while crossing the street by a reckless driver - do you feel bad only for the mother or do you also feel for her unborn child?
It is a natural instinct to feel bad for the unborn baby.
Hence - Abortion is wrong. Particularly the late ones.
Obviously there should be exceptions for some cases.

You have to be heartless to support unconditional abortions.

The Republicans are ready to discuss.
The Democrats are for death and destruction until the last man is standing or both are down.

 

[BrightShadow]

Delusional.

Leaving Ukraine hanging and giving Russia what it wants, will accomplish the opposite.
It will tell Russia that they can do what they want and nobody will lift a finger.

So let's say Ukraine is left hanging, leaving them no choice but to "freeze" current frontlines and hand over the conquered territory.
Here's my prediction:

Russia will "pauze" the conflict. Regroup, restructure, rebuild it's army.
2 to 4 years down the line, they'll move in again to take the rest of Ukraine (or Georgia or Moldova or whatever), fully assuming the result will be the same.
Some outrage, some help and some time later, leaving them hanging again and appeasing the tyrant once again.


This is what happens when you appease bullies: they come back for more.

Basic schoolyard facts.

You will be proven wrong soon.
Peace will be restored.
More than one way to win.

Basic schoolyard solution to a conflict is not working. You have given fireworks in the hands of a child (Zelensky). One of his fighter jet pilot can start a conflict that can ruin it for everyone.
Playing with fire! It has been too long!

 

[F1fan]

There are different ways to deal with different threats.
Ukraine's way of dealing with their threat - is obviously not working. All they are doing is greater damage.
Their neighbors are worried that the conflict could escalate.

Really? You think Ukraine being able to defend itself from Russia, and even invade Russia, isn't working? They are doing exceptionally well at being the underdogs. Do they have a chance of gaining back all the territory Russia has occupied? Not likely. Trump certainly won't help their case. Ideally Russia needs to withdrawl from Ukraine and pay for the damage.

Ukraine need to cut its losses and find a compromise. Soon they will do just that and you will also thank Trump.

Trump is an idiot and doesn't care about Ukraine. Ukraine might have to cut its losses due to Trump being so friendly with the war criminal putin. It sucks that so many criminals are running large, powerful nations.

All the stuff you mentioned about Putin is noted but what do you think about Bibi?

Bot are war criminals.

Palestinians are continued to be oppressed. Why not do anything there to stop the oppression?

As long as Trump and Netanyahu are in power Gaza will be bombed and its people murdered.

Double standards?
Bibi is self defending but Putin jumped the gun?

Both are war criminals out for their own aims, not peace, not humanitarian aims.

It is very relevant. It shows your mindset. There is something wrong with someone who wishes death and destruction on fellow humans. It is not something to be proud of. Hence I asked if you are directly involved with abortion clinics.

These war criminals won't leave office, won't allow themselves to be arrested. So the only thing left is their sudden death. If all authoritarian leader died of a heart attack today the world would have a chance at peace. The wars we face, in Ukraine, in Gaza, in Israel with Iran, are all caused by authoritarian leaders.

You are wishing Putin to be killed!

Killed, or natural causes, I don;t care. The guy is a war criminal. He's forfeited any good will.

Some folks try to justify it by thinking it's for the greater good.
They are wrong!

And look at you never condemning Netanyahu, or putin for their war crimes against citizens. You seen to justify their deaths, yet I just wanbt the war criminal leaders who have caused these murders to be gone from the earth. It's like the Trolley problem, but you prefer the many innocent die.

Premeditated planning to kill or wishing to kill - is wrong. Find other ways to deal with the threat.
Bibi killed over 41.000 in the name of defense. Was it defense or was it extermination?
I don't say anything about Bibi like the way you are talking against Putin.

See how you blur "defense" to justify the killing of citizens. You are worse than me. I just want to war criminals dead. You turn your eyes from the children and familes murdered by these war criminals.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You will be proven wrong soon.

I hope so, but I seriously doubt it.

Peace will be restored.
More than one way to win.

Basic schoolyard solution to a conflict is not working. You have given fireworks in the hands of a child (Zelensky). One of his fighter jet pilot can start a conflict that can ruin it for everyone.
Playing with fire! It has been too long!

Sounds like coward talk.

 

[Godobeyer]

You won't hear me say that the situation was handled properly.
But to glorify Gaddafi and deny his dictatorial rape of human rights, is to really set yourself outside of reasonable discussion.

There are many dictator and racist regimes but they are pro West, especially kings of oil and Israel.

Gaddafi was victim to be rebellion against West.

 

[Estro Felino]

You won't hear me say that the situation was handled properly.
But to glorify Gaddafi and deny his dictatorial rape of human rights, is to really set yourself outside of reasonable discussion.

Even in the Wikileaks papers it is written that they wanted Gaddafi gone because of squalid economic interests.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Even in the Wikileaks papers it is written that they wanted Gaddafi gone because of squalid economic interests.

None of this changes anything about him being a human rights raping dictator.