Zionists silencing every criticism on the apartheid regime as "anti-Jewism"

[Simplelogic]

No idea where you got that from.

^^^^^

 

[Simplelogic]

No, I am most certainly not. That is what you are doing.

Now you are saying that Israel has "ideological" hatred of Gazans?

 

[Bunyip]

Now you are saying that Israel has "ideological" hatred of Gazans?

Nope, I said nothing of the sort.

 

[Simplelogic]

Again…here is the problem:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

 

[Simplelogic]

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

 

[Simplelogic]

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

 

[Simplelogic]

You are a sick and cowardly person who is afraid to address the real problem in this conflict. You disregard ideological genocide and murder and condemn those who make every attempt to avoid civilians. I pray we never meet. To the ignore list you go.

 

[Bunyip]

You are a sick and cowardly person who is afraid to address the real problem in this conflict. You disregard ideological genocide and murder and condemn those who make every attempt to avoid civilians. I pray we never meet. To the ignore list you go.

So just making up my side of the argument didn't work - and you go straight back to paranoid insults. As I said, you prove my point.

 

[Juhurka]

Genocidal ideology is unfortunately common to both sides of the conflict. The post you liked from Juhurka being a good example.

Did I call for anyone's genocide? I dont think so. If you believe that when someone comes to kill you you should do nothing but scream peace I feel sorry for you, I just don't subscribe to your fantasy book. If someone comes to kill you, you fight back and if that means war, fine. You don't want war and death? dont come to kill me its that simple. In your world a peaceful Jew is the dead Jew but thankfully you are not in charge.

 

[Bunyip]

Did I call for anyone's genocide? I dont think so. If you believe that when someone comes to kill you you should do nothing but scream peace I feel sorry for you,

Inventing a position and pretending that I hold it it not very interesting or useful.

I just don't subscribe to your fantasy book. If someone comes to kill you, you fight back and if that means war fine, you don't want war and death? dont come to kill me its that simple. In your world a peaceful Jew is the dead Jew but thankfully you are not in charge.

As I said, inventing what you imagine I think and then attacking me over it is not very interesting.

 

[Juhurka]

Sorry bro, but until u proof that u are jewish, its pointless for Bunyib and others to debate with u about israel.

First proof that u are jewish.

Who do you think you are to ask someone to prove if they are Jewish or not? Just because you are muslim does not mean you are better nor does it give you the right to ask someone to prove their Jewishness.

 

[Juhurka]

Inventing a position and pretending that I hold it it not very interesting or useful. As I said, inventing what you imagine I think and then attacking me over it is not very interesting.

You just proved my point. I couldn't really care what you believe or think.

 

[Bunyip]

You just proved my point. I couldn't really care what you believe or think.

Your point was that you don't care what I think? LOL.