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Why I am an Ahmadi Muslim?

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
hello my brother.i know but islam is not that thing you see in appearance.
it has philosophy and if any one want to became muslim should research about it and if accept principles can be muslim.
islam is fixed .and anyone can not change it by his wishes.like Quran that all muslim have one Quran and it did not change.

Why would Ahmadis say they believe these things if they don't? They have as much reason to lie about such things as Shias do; or Sunnis. It's kind of ironic that you deny Ahmadis the option of self-identifying as Muslims and claim they're not when most of the Muslim world already does the same thing to your sect. By your logic you're as kufr as @paarsurrey and @DawudTalut .

Maybe, just maybe if you all stopped focussing on who isn't a true Muslim and started focussing on how you can be a true Muslim, you'd all get along better.

Attitudes like yours form the basis of the sectarian mentality that led to Asad Shah being stabbed and curb-stomped to death for 'insulting Islam'.
 
Brother. Have you explored their theology in full. Totally.

Do you think Sunnism is an Islamic religion?

Do you believe that there is only one deen, millat?
yes i know about them.
about sunni yes they are.
between shia and sunni are very difference.
we have one hadith from prophet Muhammad that says my people convert to seventy sects and just one of them become prosper!
it show that we should research what is that one religion!
 
Why would Ahmadis say they believe these things if they don't? They have as much reason to lie about such things as Shias do; or Sunnis. It's kind of ironic that you deny Ahmadis the option of self-identifying as Muslims and claim they're not when most of the Muslim world already does the same thing to your sect. By your logic you're as kufr as @paarsurrey and @DawudTalut .

Maybe, just maybe if you all stopped focussing on who isn't a true Muslim and started focussing on how you can be a true Muslim, you'd all get along better.

Attitudes like yours form the basis of the sectarian mentality that led to Asad Shah being stabbed and curb-stomped to death for 'insulting Islam'.
ok my brother.i said i just define for you realy islam.
but if a person say praying and love god and.... he is a good person but he is not muslim.i said he is not muslim and i dont said he is not a good person.
i sure he is very good and better than me.:rose::rose::rose:
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
yes i know about them.
about sunni yes they are.
between shia and sunni are very difference.
we have one hadith from prophet Muhammad that says my people convert to seventy sects and just one of them become prosper!
it show that we should research what is that one religion!
And that sure is Ahmadiyya-the reformed , peaceful and truthful Islam.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Why would Ahmadis say they believe these things if they don't? They have as much reason to lie about such things as Shias do; or Sunnis. It's kind of ironic that you deny Ahmadis the option of self-identifying as Muslims and claim they're not when most of the Muslim world already does the same thing to your sect. By your logic you're as kufr as @paarsurrey and @DawudTalut .
Maybe, just maybe if you all stopped focussing on who isn't a true Muslim and started focussing on how you can be a true Muslim, you'd all get along better.
Attitudes like yours form the basis of the sectarian mentality that led to Asad Shah being stabbed and curb-stomped to death for 'insulting Islam'.
It is a good piece of advice from you. I never try to prove others as kafir, if one recites the Kalima:
لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا الله مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ الله
'lā ilāha illā -llāh, muḥammadur rasūlu -llāh
There is no god but Allah, [and] Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.[5][6][7][8]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Kalimas
such a person cannot be called a kafir.

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
hello my brother.i know but islam is not that thing you see in appearance.
it has philosophy and if any one want to became muslim should research about it and if accept principles can be muslim.
islam is fixed .and anyone can not change it by his wishes.like Quran that all muslim have one Quran and it did not change.
If one accepts Ali and is not a kafir the same way if one accepts Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a successor of Muhammad, as per Quran, such a person cannot be a kafir.
Regards
 
If one accepts Ali and is not a kafir the same way if one accepts Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a successor of Muhammad, as per Quran, such a person cannot be a kafir.
Regards
no my brother.
between they are very difference.
in Quran our Hadith is any name from Mirza Ghulam?
we have many verses and hadith that says Ali is successor of Muhammad of muhammad.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
no my brother.
between they are very difference.
in Quran our Hadith is any name from Mirza Ghulam?
we have many verses and hadith that says Ali is successor of Muhammad of muhammad.
theCaliphate or Khilafat is an institution that derives its authority of truthfulness from Quran, and as truly noted by you "Quran that all muslim have one Quran and it did not change".
Am I right? Please
Regards
 

james184

Terror has no Religion
I was born in an Ahmadi family. Yes, I am an Ahmadi Muslim not only by birth but also by conviction. One may say that I am a born again in my faith and it happened at hands of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. I never saw him but reading his books have done that. He instils love of Allah, Muhammad, Quran with signs, reasons as reason could take one to, and believing Word of Revelation that takes one beyond all that.

Regards

 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
theCaliphate or Khilafat is an institution that derives its authority of truthfulness from Quran, and as truly noted by you "Quran that all muslim have one Quran and it did not change".
Am I right? Please
Regards
In connection with the Jesus' Second Coming, which has happened in the character of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, one could read the following Sahih Hadith.

Narrated Abu Hurayrah:

حَدَّثَنَا هُدْبَةُ بْنُ خَالِدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا هَمَّامُ بْنُ يَحْيَى، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ آدَمَ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ لَيْسَ بَيْنِي وَبَيْنَهُ نَبِيٌّ - يَعْنِي عِيسَى - وَإِنَّهُ نَازِلٌ فَإِذَا رَأَيْتُمُوهُ فَاعْرِفُوهُ رَجُلٌ مَرْبُوعٌ إِلَى الْحُمْرَةِ وَالْبَيَاضِ بَيْنَ مُمَصَّرَتَيْنِ كَأَنَّ رَأْسَهُ يَقْطُرُ وَإِنْ لَمْ يُصِبْهُ بَلَلٌ فَيُقَاتِلُ النَّاسَ عَلَى الإِسْلاَمِ فَيَدُقُّ الصَّلِيبَ وَيَقْتُلُ الْخِنْزِيرَ وَيَضَعُ الْجِزْيَةَ وَيُهْلِكُ اللَّهُ فِي زَمَانِهِ الْمِلَلَ كُلَّهَا إِلاَّ الإِسْلاَمَ وَيُهْلِكُ الْمَسِيحَ الدَّجَّالَ فَيَمْكُثُ فِي الأَرْضِ أَرْبَعِينَ سَنَةً ثُمَّ يُتَوَفَّى فَيُصَلِّي عَلَيْهِ الْمُسْلِمُونَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (ﷺ). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
http://sunnah.com/abudawud/39
Grade : Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني) حكم :
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 4324
In-book reference : Book 39, Hadith 34
English translation : Book 38, Hadith 4310

Regards
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
To everyone so called Muslim (not against any Shias, Ahmadi,Sunnis or any sects of Muslims) I believe that the creation of sects are not good, they are man-made. There is only one group of believers just Muslims. In the Qur'an, Allah states
[6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform them of everything they had done.

If i have a mistranslation or misconception, please tell me so, however i do not recall any. There is only 1 sect of Islam, which is the true Islam, just classified as Muslims.
 

Raahim

مكتوب
To everyone so called Muslim (not against any Shias, Ahmadi,Sunnis or any sects of Muslims) I believe that the creation of sects are not good, they are man-made. There is only one group of believers just Muslims. In the Qur'an, Allah states
[6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform them of everything they had done.

If i have a mistranslation or misconception, please tell me so, however i do not recall any. There is only 1 sect of Islam, which is the true Islam, just classified as Muslims.

I agree with you.
To each their own, but I will surely openly be against extremists for they don't understand what Quran says.
 

Jabar

“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
@Raahim Exactly. @paarsurrey The Qur'an explains well that Muhammad is the seal of the prophet. Ahmadi's tend to interchange the word to try and prove their point however Muhammad was the seal of the prophets and the last and final one. Also, the Hadith consists of errors, which one would you believe the Qur'an or hadith? Tell me.
 

Raahim

مكتوب
I rushed through the thread just to have some idea on what was going on and I could only say: He who believes in one true God and that He revealed Quran to His messenger, and is praying and living in moral is a Muslim. Allah will judge who was more right and who wasn't, it's on us to try and be a better human without being hypocrites and harming others.
 
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