Left wingers in USA seem to be more imperialist fascists than right wingers nowadays

[SkepticThinker]

No they aren’t they don’t even claim that, they all know these people are dead, no so with Jesus Christ, He is alive and speaking.

Where is Jesus alive and speaking? Can you show him to us?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Not even close that every scientist is in agreement

You avoided the point.

 

[SkepticThinker]

If you believe fossil fuels are only made from decaying material then you could convince a six year old we were running out, but then again we wouldn’t have the amount of fossil fuels we have currently.
So I believe that we aren’t running out of fossil fuels because God created the earth to manufacture these fuels for our needs just like we won’t run out of oxygen.

Please demonstrate this.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Please demonstrate this.

The demonstration is we haven’t run out

 

[ElishaElijah]

Where is Jesus alive and speaking? Can you show him to us?

Jesus tomb is empty, many people saw Him after he rose from the dead. He said He was sending the Holy Spirit to live in believers. This happened at Pentecost 50 days after Jesus rose from the dead. We are currently in the ministry of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit comes and lives in every person that repents of their sin and believes the Gospel. This is called being born again of the Spirit. That’s how we speak and here from Jesus Christ now till He returns. ( Through the Holy Spirit).

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you believe fossil fuels are only made from decaying material then you could convince a six year old we were running out, but then again we wouldn’t have the amount of fossil fuels we have currently.
So I believe that we aren’t running out of fossil fuels because God created the earth to manufacture these fuels for our needs just like we won’t run out of oxygen.

But we are running out. Yes, we do keep "finding" new sources. But many of those sources are merely old ones where new technology makes it possible to get oil out of the ground. At one point it was almost as easy as this:

In fact the earliest sources of oil were seeps, oil that was naturally leaking out of the ground. You can read a bit about it here:

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/education/whatischemistry/landmarks/pennsylvaniaoilindustry.html

Those days are gone of course. The easy oil is long gone. Now we have to either frack sources that are either old or were previously to dispersed, or find new ones. We will still find some new ones, but new finds are rarer and rarer. If oil was the product of a young Earth we would still be finding new easy sources of oil.

Scientists have strong evidence that oil is from organisms. Once again instead of denying reality you should be asking how scientists know what they know.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The demonstration is we haven’t run out

That is no a demonstration.


Try again. The pattern of finding oil tells us that we are running out.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Jesus tomb is empty, many people saw Him after he rose from the dead. He said He was sending the Holy Spirit to live in believers. This happened at Pentecost 50 days after Jesus rose from the dead. We are currently in the ministry of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit comes and lives in every person that repents of their sin and believes the Gospel. This is called being born again of the Spirit. That’s how we speak and here from Jesus Christ now till He returns. ( Through the Holy Spirit).

Jesus probably did not even have a tomb. That is a claim that was never substantiated. And the Bible's changing narrative puts huge doubts on the resurrection myth.

You have no reliable evidence for this belief. Only empty claims.

 

[ElishaElijah]

But we are running out. Yes, we do keep "finding" new sources. But many of those sources are merely old ones where new technology makes it possible to get oil out of the ground. At one point it was almost as easy as this:

In fact the earliest sources of oil were seeps, oil that was naturally leaking out of the ground. You can read a bit about it here:

https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/education/whatischemistry/landmarks/pennsylvaniaoilindustry.html

Those days are gone of course. The easy oil is long gone. Now we have to either frack sources that are either old or were previously to dispersed, or find new ones. We will still find some new ones, but new finds are rarer and rarer. If oil was the product of a young Earth we would still be finding new easy sources of oil.

Scientists have strong evidence that oil is from organisms. Once again instead of denying reality you should be asking how scientists know what they know.

So when are we going to be out of fossil fuels and exhausted our supply?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Jesus probably did not even have a tomb. That is a claim that was never substantiated. And the Bible's changing narrative puts huge doubts on the resurrection myth.

You have no reliable evidence for this belief. Only empty claims.

Your statement is false: This is what happened and the tomb was known by most everyone.
“As evening approached, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who had himself become a disciple of Jesus. Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus’ body, and Pilate ordered that it be given to him. Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, and placed it in his own new tomb that he had cut out of the rock. He rolled a big stone in front of the entrance to the tomb and went away. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were sitting there opposite the tomb.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:57-61‬ ‭NIV‬‬

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your statement is false: This is what happened and the tomb was known by most everyone.
“As evening approached, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who had himself become a disciple of Jesus. Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus’ body, and Pilate ordered that it be given to him. Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, and placed it in his own new tomb that he had cut out of the rock. He rolled a big stone in front of the entrance to the tomb and went away. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were sitting there opposite the tomb.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:57-61‬ ‭NIV‬‬

No, that is just a story in the Bible. Matthew was not written by eyewitnesses, none of the Gospels were. They are merely tales of oral tradition. You should check out the history of the Bible. Do you know why Jesus was probably never in a tomb?

 

[ElishaElijah]

No, that is just a story in the Bible. Matthew was not written by eyewitnesses, none of the Gospels were. They are merely tales of oral tradition. You should check out the history of the Bible. Do you know why Jesus was probably never in a tomb?

I’ve read the different views and some agree with your position and some don’t. Like I said it’s divided. My view and experience is that the Bible is true and accurate but some people missrepresent the truth or don’t believe it and some do. Some believe and are saved, some reject and are not.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I’ve read the different views and some agree with your position and some don’t. Like I said it’s divided. My view and experience is that the Bible is true and accurate but some people missrepresent the truth or don’t believe it and some do. Some believe and are saved, some reject and are not.

You should pay more attention to those that can support their claims, less to little attention to those are write only what they want to believe, and totally ignore apologists, also known as liars for Jesus. And you yourself have demonstrated that your experiences are worthless since you are not willing to test them properly.

The more reliable sources, those that can support their claims, tend to agree with me.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You should pay more attention to those that can support their claims, less to little attention to those are write only what they want to believe, and totally ignore apologists, also known as liars for Jesus. And you yourself have demonstrated that your experiences are worthless since you are not willing to test them properly.

The more reliable sources, those that can support their claims, tend to agree with me.

I’ve been living out God’s Word for the last 30+ years and found that God is faithful to His promises and live the abundant life that Jesus promised, blessing to blessing.Before that I lived according to the wisdom of the world and ended up spiritually, emotionally and physically bankrupt.
So no will not listen to those you get your counsel from.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The demonstration is we haven’t run out

Is that your serious answer?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Jesus tomb is empty, many people saw Him after he rose from the dead. He said He was sending the Holy Spirit to live in believers. This happened at Pentecost 50 days after Jesus rose from the dead. We are currently in the ministry of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit comes and lives in every person that repents of their sin and believes the Gospel. This is called being born again of the Spirit. That’s how we speak and here from Jesus Christ now till He returns. ( Through the Holy Spirit).

So you can't demonstrate that Jesus is alive and well. And you can't show him to me. Okay then.

There are no eyewitness accounts of any of this. Just stories in an old book.

These are just a bunch of claims lacking evidential support, which makes you sound a bit hypocritical here.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Your statement is false: This is what happened and the tomb was known by most everyone.
“As evening approached, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who had himself become a disciple of Jesus. Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus’ body, and Pilate ordered that it be given to him. Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, and placed it in his own new tomb that he had cut out of the rock. He rolled a big stone in front of the entrance to the tomb and went away. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were sitting there opposite the tomb.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:57-61‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Great story, by an anonymous writer in an old book.
Can you demonstrate any of it actually happend?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Is that your serious answer?

Well yes because if you seriously believe that the only fossil fuels available were from decomposition of dinosaurs and animals we would’ve already run out.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Great story, by an anonymous writer in an old book.
Can you demonstrate any of it actually happend?

Well yes, when a person has faith (they hear the gospel and believe what God says and promises) repents and believes the gospel. At that time God gives this person the Holy Spirit who is the guarantee of the inheritance of eternal life. This isn’t a made up experience or event, a person is changed and can communicate with God now.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I’ve been living out God’s Word for the last 30+ years and found that God is faithful to His promises and live the abundant life that Jesus promised, blessing to blessing.Before that I lived according to the wisdom of the world and ended up spiritually, emotionally and physically bankrupt.
So no will not listen to those you get your counsel from.

But you have shown that to be only confirmation bias. You really have nothing. And you appear to know it. If you really believed what you preach you would be willing to test your beliefs properly. Your refusal to do so indicates that deep down you have grave fears that you are wrong. Which may explain your behavior here. Fear based beliefs tend to be irrational ones and lead to irrational attacks against others.