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kjw47

Well-Known Member
Every generation thinks times have never been worse, that everyone is blind to it. The darkness of the Book of Revelation is sick.


Actually the coming of Gods kingdom is good news. God gave us all a choice-Deuteronomy 30:19= Life or Death both will be everlasting. Actions speak louder than words.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Actually the coming of Gods kingdom is good news. God gave us all a choice-Deuteronomy 30:19= Life or Death both will be everlasting. Actions speak louder than words.
The Kingdom is spiritual and already here. Jesus established it 2000 years ago.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
If one desires to speak about Gods truths found in the bible answer me back, otherwise do not bother. Its sickening to me that ones like you are ruining it for everyone trying to speak about God. Get behind me satan.

This is a public debate forum, and I will post when I am minded to, you don't get to tell others they can't comment, and you revealed no truth, you just keep making unevidenced claims, even denying scientific facts.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
The Kingdom is spiritual and already here. Jesus established it 2000 years ago.


Wow, This system is ruled by satan. Gods king however is sitting on his throne, Few know him. Many give him lip service, but the bible assures-obeying Jesus is proof of ones love for him. Few even know what he taught, let alone obey him.
Here is a big one Jesus taught---Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God--That takes years and years of reading the whole bible many x and all will still glean new utterances each time. So that never stops. And its a 100% guarantee the real teachers that have Jesus make sure it is done by all.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
This is a public debate forum, and I will post when I am minded to, you don't get to tell others they can't comment, and you revealed no truth, you just keep making unevidenced claims, even denying scientific facts.


God gave all freewill. i will use it to not answer you back anymore unless you get so annoying i will keep putting you in your place, so have fun.
Gods word said the wicked need proof. They have no faith--so sad.
 
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DNB

Christian
All this is a matter of opinion based on a certain world view. Many believe the opposite is true in many cases because they do not have the same world view as you.
It is an objective fact. There is a pattern in the behaviour of all those who participate in such activities, either performing or spectator.
All promiscuous people share a common depravity in their character, they are easy to sleep with, indiscriminate as to who their partners are, jealous as can be, and lack affection and passion. They are animals in their behaviour - nothing glamorous or sensual about their activities.,
 

DNB

Christian
Because the unsubstantiated claim was made.
Considering the vast majority of the population watches porn, you are accusing a high percentage of the population of not adhering to your opinion. And you do seem to have formed an opinion, either by eatching it yourself or through ignorance.
Because you like to ensures others are of your opinion maybe? Never works particularly when you hold such intrangegent opinions on a popular subject
Define 'unsubstantiated'.
I've met enough promiscuous people in my life, that I am aware of their motivations, performance and aftermaths. Sex is an extremely intoxicating vice, and it is easily concealed as love and affection. Therefore, in tends to beguile and entice a large part of the populace, at least at one point in their lives. Even still, many who participate in one manner or another, will still denounce it as neither pleasant nor gratifying.
Why do I need to explain this, especially to someone whom I assume is over 18 years old.

Again, would you have a daughter or son get involved in the porn industry?
 

DNB

Christian
Hmmm, people have formed an opinion that does not gel with yours and so you protest loudly that they have not formed an opinion that you agree with... or so it seems

You have no idea of my life ao why make assumptions that only make you look ignorant on the subject?

i am not talking one or two scholarly papers but hundreds and hundreds of psychological works, and you know it but try and diminish the quantity because they do not support your opinion
I hope that you neither engage in pornography nor watch it, and that you do not promote others to do either one also.
Live a wholesome life with discretion and prudence, it builds character - even a street punk or gang-banger, or the vilest of characters, know how to watch porn or participate - it is for the simple-minded, those who lack self-control, and the depraved.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Wow, This system is ruled by satan. Gods king however is sitting on his throne, Few know him. Many give him lip service, but the bible assures-obeying Jesus is proof of ones love for him. Few even know what he taught, let alone obey him.
Here is a big one Jesus taught---Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God--That takes years and years of reading the whole bible many x and all will still glean new utterances each time. So that never stops. And its a 100% guarantee the real teachers that have Jesus make sure it is done by all.
John the Baptist warned of the wrath to come. He was off by at least 2000 years! The Bible is full of such human error.
 

Jacob Samuelson

Active Member
Does anyone know the statistic of those who have committed a heinous crime and who have watched pornography basically their whole lives? Last time I check it was definitely in the 90's%. Now I know just because they correlate doesn't make pornography the cause, but I think when we evaluate sin it is important to consider the pretenses to it. Pornography by nature degrades the human perspective of female sexuality, which is certainly not healthy look at 51% of the world population. It also releases a drug oxytocin in the brain which primary function is to make you feel connected to something. It is the same chemical that is often released after women give birth to immediately bond with her child. Once someone overdoses this chemical, over time, that person becomes numb to feeling connection and people start to look like things. Criminals tend to look at other human beings, especially woman, as objects that need to produce this chemical for them. If they don't produce, they tend to become aggressive and are more likely to commit crime.

Every time pornography is viewed the brain is tricked to believe that its host is engaging in a sexual activity and begins its release of oxytocin. Because pornography can take much longer to climax, than real sex. This chemical can be released in very abnormally high amounts easily creating an addictive platform. Some research even shows this addiction has more of a hold than cocaine or meth, some of the most addictive substances know to man.

So is pornography a sin? It is just as sinful as taking meth or cocaine or any mind-inhibiting or life-shattering drug. It can take your life away. If Satan's, who is the father of Sin, job is to take away your freedoms, pornography is his sniper rife. Its discreet, it doesn't give you a crazy hang over, it takes some time to fall into, but once your there, it couldn't be harder to get out.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
It is an objective fact. There is a pattern in the behaviour of all those who participate in such activities, either performing or spectator.
All promiscuous people share a common depravity in their character, they are easy to sleep with, indiscriminate as to who their partners are, jealous as can be, and lack affection and passion. They are animals in their behaviour - nothing glamorous or sensual about their activities.,

"Depravity", "animals in their behaviour", "nothing glamorous or sensual about their activities", are all statements of opinion.

"Easy to sleep with" is also a relative term.

Provide evidence as to people who watch or participate in porn, being indiscriminate as to their partners, jealous as can be, and lack affection and passion. These are just assertions due to your ignorance and bias on the matter.

There are people who participate in porn who just have sex with one partner, they just record it. People who have many partners are unlikely to be jealous. I don't see how you can even begin to quantify whether these people lack affection and passion. Have you peered into the minds of all these people around the world? I know many people who watch porn and happen to express a lot of affection and passion.

So from my personal experience, you are very wrong with your blanket statements.

Never speak ignorance on a subject and never portray opinions as facts. That just serves to discredit your message. Rather know your limits in knowledge and communicate accordingly.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Does anyone know the statistic of those who have committed a heinous crime and who have watched pornography basically their whole lives? Last time I check it was definitely in the 90's%. .

That is poisoning the well.

The question should be: do the majority of people who watch pornography commit heinous crimes? The answer would be an obvious no.

I would say that with regards to sex crimes, the perpetrators would most likely have watched pornography. And also it is the type of pornography they watch as well.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Wicked people God killed. If the rebellion in Eden did not occur. It never would have happened. Its satans lie and mortal believing it that caused every death ever. God handed all of those-life everlasting free of charge. He asked one thing-do not eat of that tree. Thus all were given free will so out of love could choose with that free will to listen Gods advice in every matter. That advice benefited mortals. They kicked him in the teeth by rebelling. So once and for all time it is being proven who is correct--Satan said we should know both sides ourselves to make choices on-This sick system is that result. God said mortals should know only good and listen to his advice to be on the path to lasting happiness.

God is always correct. So that rebellion is what caused every death ever-Mortals chose this way. Its not what God wanted, but he didnt want robots so free will was given. Asking one simple thing of them. They would have lived forever happy by trusting in their creator over a lie.

You missed out the "in my opinion"

But if you want to be judge and jury of all those who don't believe your story then consider Matthew 7:1-5
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Define 'unsubstantiated'.
I've met enough promiscuous people in my life, that I am aware of their motivations, performance and aftermaths. Sex is an extremely intoxicating vice, and it is easily concealed as love and affection. Therefore, in tends to beguile and entice a large part of the populace, at least at one point in their lives. Even still, many who participate in one manner or another, will still denounce it as neither pleasant nor gratifying.
Why do I need to explain this, especially to someone whom I assume is over 18 years old.

Again, would you have a daughter or son get involved in the porn industry?


Failed sarcasm again..how pathetic

Unsubstantiated - not supported or proven by evidence.


And without sex your family and you would be non existent, i can guarantee that at least some members in your ancestry actually went as far as enjoying sex.

When my son or daughters become of age it is not up to me to decide what their employment is to be.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I hope that you neither engage in pornography nor watch it, and that you do not promote others to do either one also.
Live a wholesome life with discretion and prudence, it builds character - even a street punk or gang-banger, or the vilest of characters, know how to watch porn or participate - it is for the simple-minded, those who lack self-control, and the depraved.


FYI, watching pornography was instrumental in our marrage continuing until now and will in all probability continue until obe of us dies.

Others can watch ir not watch pornography, it us not my place to dictate how they live their lives and it is not your place either.

And a street pubk or gang banger also knows how to go to church... Interesting comparison eh?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
John the Baptist warned of the wrath to come. He was off by at least 2000 years! The Bible is full of such human error.


Actually much is disguised. And its clear in Peter--1000 years is as a day to God--Its been 2 days. And in 70 ad Jerusalem was devasted by the romans. Is that what John spoke of?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
You missed out the "in my opinion"

But if you want to be judge and jury of all those who don't believe your story then consider Matthew 7:1-5


I studied hard for years--i share facts. God reveals himself to those who put effort forth and love him.
 
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