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The Holy Spirit

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Maybe you dont like it. But the survey was done in the U.S. And it was about biblical knowledge. You may know better than others but that is not relevant to a survey.

Arguing that atheists are "foolish" with me is irrelevant. I am only stating facts.
Biblical knowledge matters not a jot if this knowledge resides in a carnal mind.

Romans 8:7. 'Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be'.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Biblical knowledge matters not a jot if this knowledge resides in a carnal mind.

Sorry mate. Thats not an argument to be made with me. I was only quoting a fact that a research was done. This particular argument of yours should be with the researchers.

Hope you understand.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
I do not believe the Holy Spirit lives inside of individuals.

1 Corinthians 3:16. 'Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?'

Now, this scripture is directed at the whole Church, as the body of Christ, but it must be possible for an individual to know the workings of the Holy Spirit in their own soul.
 
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Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Sorry mate. Thats not an argument to be made with me. I was only quoting a fact that a research was done. This particular argument of yours should be with the researchers.

Hope you understand.
Yes, l understand.

To some people, knowledge of the Bible may equate with knowledge of God, but this is just not true. The Bible itself warns against such people.

2 Timothy 3:1-7. 'This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves....Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away....Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth'.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Yes, l understand.

To some people, knowledge of the Bible may equate with knowledge of God, but this is just not true. The Bible itself warns against such people.

2 Timothy 3:1-7. 'This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves....Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away....Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth'.

Not relevant to me brother.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
They do say all kinds of things; but at some point you have to make up your own mind as to what is truth.

Paul said, 'work out your own salvation with fear and trembling'. [Phil.2:12]

Sure.
As for Paul, his ridiculous snake story
tells me whether to trust him.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Sure.
As for Paul, his ridiculous snake story
tells me whether to trust him.
Is that the 'ridiculous' story of Paul being bitten by a poisonous snake and not suffering or dying [Acts 28]? So, what you actually mean is that you don't believe the 'ridiculous' words of Jesus, because Jesus promised that this would happen [Mark 16:18].
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Sure.
As for Paul, his ridiculous snake story
tells me whether to trust him.
Paul had got nothing to do with Jesus and or his teachings. Paul invented the Pauline-Christianity which had got nothing to do with Jesus and or his teachings.

Regards
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Is that the 'ridiculous' story of Paul being bitten by a poisonous snake and not suffering or dying [Acts 28]? So, what you actually mean is that you don't believe the 'ridiculous' words of Jesus, because Jesus promised that this would happen [Mark 16:18].
The story, as told, is absurd. Or ridiculous, unbelievable, phony.

Anyone who reads it and doesnt notice anything wrong is satisfied with
only the most superficial analysis of what is in the bible.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
Paul had got nothing to do with Jesus and or his teachings. Paul invented the Pauline-Christianity which had got nothing to do with Jesus and or his teachings.
Thats my understanding of it.
Paul invented a queer creed of Pauline-Christianity that every human is sinful except innocent Jesus . I therefore, describe Paul as Sinful Paul, Sinful Matthew etc. Should Christian mind it?
Adam, Jesus and Mary were innocents, I am all praise for them.

Regards
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
paarsurrey said:
Paul had got nothing to do with Jesus and or his teachings. Paul invented the Pauline-Christianity which had got nothing to do with Jesus and or his teachings.

Paul invented a queer creed of Pauline-Christianity that every human is sinful except innocent Jesus . I therefore, describe Paul as Sinful Paul, Sinful Matthew etc. Should Christian mind it?
Adam, Jesus and Mary were innocents, I am all praise for them.

Regards
This is not true.

Which part of the teaching of Paul would Jesus have disagreed with?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Now, this scripture is directed at the whole Church, as the body of Christ, but it must be possible for an individual to know the workings of the Holy Spirit in their own soul.
That is true. They must know in their soul but that does not mean that the Holy Spirit lives inside their body.

The Holy Spirit reflects upon humans and is associated with their minds but it does not descend into their bodies. Entrance and exit, descent and ascent, are characteristics of bodies and not of spirits. The Holy Spirit do not enter the body, but rather it has a direct connection to the body through the soul, which is associated with the mind while we are alive in the physical body.
 
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