Is the Religious Right in America gunning for you?

[Wildswanderer]

No, I wouldn't kill such a living being*, but I wouldn't call it a baby. But even that comes with a caveat*, because there are rare conditions, where I would if I were such a doctor, that did that. E.g. there are pregnancies outside the womb. Did you know that?

Of course everyone brings up the one in the million as justification for abortion.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Yes, this baby:

That's a human being.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Of course he's a baby... and deserves to live. I bet you are glad your mom didn't use your reasoning.

Such backward thinking. The vast majority of women do believe that way. Just because people know that a fetus is not a baby does not result in them being aborted. You need to work on your own reasoning skills. Just because people know that it is not wrong to get an abortion when one needs one does not mean that everyone is going to rush out and get one. This is not a Black Friday Sale situation.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's a human being.

Wow! Another expert on physiology. From just a picture @Wildswanderer can tell the difference between a human blastocyst and one of a dog, horse or cow. I hope that picture was not too erotic for you.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Such backward thinking. The vast majority of women do believe that way. Just because people know that a fetus is not a baby does not result in them being aborted. You need to work on your own reasoning skills. Just because people know that it is not wrong to get an abortion when one needs one does not mean that everyone is going to rush out and get one. This is not a Black Friday Sale situation.

The vast majority of Americans oppose abortion in most situations.

 

[Father Heathen]

The problem is that people will be forced or coerced into the sex trade.
And by your argument here, why register guns? The people that are responsible adults won't do any harm and the ones that aren't won't care if a gun is legal anyway. What is the problem?

Obviously those trafficked aren't consenting. Regulating and licensing the trade would help filter that out.
Your gun example is ironic, don't you think? Criminals don't care about licensing and regulation so by your own logic they should be banned.

BTW, I'm not anti gun, but I think access, licensing, regulation, etc. should be stricter; require actual training, testing, certification, etc.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

The vast majority of Americans oppose abortion in most situations.

They're not involved in most situations, so that wouldn't matter. Their opinion only matters when it's their situation.

That's a human being.

If you think that that's a picture of a child, and you have stated elsewhere that you do, you might have a legal problem. It's a naked photo on the Internet.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The vast majority of Americans oppose abortion in most situations.

Nope. I can provide the polls. 59% of Americans are for legalized abortion with little to no limitations. As usual you are wrong. Do you want the polls? I will provide them. But first you have to admit that you were pulling your "facts" out of your favorite receptacle again. Or you could try to support your claims for once.

You probably won' do either because you know that I am right.

 

[Windwalker]

That was a small portion of conservatives.
Should liberals be judged by Antifa types
who committed crimes?

It was not a small portion. This whole Big Lie and cultural war BS, is now the predominant voice of the Republican Party, formerly known as the GOP, now better called the Christian Nationalist Anti-Democracy party of Donald Trump.

This is anything but a small minority of crazy extremists, like Antifia.

 

[Viker]

That's not gun violence, it's violent people using guns. If an axe or chainsaw is used by a violent person is it a violent chainsaw?

They call people who've killed with axes ax murderers.
And it's chainsaw violence. Violence with a chainsaw. You love semantic acrobatics?

 

[Viker]

But that's all it is for most people. It's a form of virtue signaling.

Most?

What about that 99% statistic?

 

[F1fan]

So you are in fact, in favor of forced vaccination?

It's called mandatory vaccination. No one is forced if they don't want vaccinations. But that means there are negative consequences. If parents don't vaccinate their children they might not have any public or private schools available to them. Even FOX News made it mandatory for employees to be vaccinated, or get tested twice a week, and about 90% did get vaccinated. This includes the pundits that were the most vocal against vaccines or mandatory vaccinations. They're called hypocrites. If FOX employees didn't;t want to follow the safety rules set by the company they could quit and find a job in a company that doesn't care about the health of their employees.

And particularly with a vaccine that doesn't stop the spread of what it's supposed to prevent?

Once again you show a poor understanding of reality.

Not all vaccines cure a disease. Polio was wiped out due to vaccination. Flu type virus aren't killed by vaccines. They help boost the natural ability you body has to combat the virus. What the Covid vaccines did was force the immune system to create antibodies that attack the Covid virus if it in inhaled. So it is in essence a head start for your body and if you are not heavily infected with virus your body may be able to knock it out before it replicates by using your body as a host. This who get vaccinated can fight off Covid better than non-vaccinated people. When you are infected with Covid your body starts to make antibodies, but if it starts to replicate before your antibodies wipe it out it's game over. Too late. Vaccines are like more troops to fight an invasion.

Of course this all depends on what variant you're infected with, and how much virus you inhale. When I was infected I was at a wedding in a closed room and was there for over 2 hours. About 60% of us were infected by one person, and it was the Delta variant, very nasty. I inhaled quite a lot of virus, as were many around me. This means my body was so overwhelmed that even though I was vaccinated and boosted I couldn't fight it before it replicated.

This is why masks are so important. They may not block all the virus but the limit the number of virus exhaled and limit even more what people inhale. There needs to be a certain amount of virus inhaled for it to not be attacked by the body, and this is why masks help protect people, as it limited the amount of virus a person inhaled.

 

[F1fan]

Of course he's a baby... and deserves to live.

How do you know a zygote or fetus deserves to live? Who says, besides the minority like you just making a guess? The law disagrees, to certain limits.

 

[F1fan]

The vast majority of Americans oppose abortion in most situations.

Cite a reputable poll, and be honest. We will check your sources.

 

[Father Heathen]

That's not gun violence, it's violent people using guns. If an axe or chainsaw is used by a violent person is it a violent chainsaw?

Guns allow violent people to be far more effective and efficient killers.

 

[Subduction Zone]

They call people who've killed with axes ax murderers.
And it's chainsaw violence. Violence with a chainsaw. You love semantic acrobatics?

I thought that people that killed with chainsaws were called Texans.

 

[Father Heathen]

 

[Viker]

I thought that people that killed with chainsaws were called Texans.

They have leather faces, too.

 

[Revoltingest]

It was not a small portion. This whole Big Lie and cultural war BS, is now the predominant voice of the Republican Party, formerly known as the GOP, now better called the Christian Nationalist Anti-Democracy party of Donald Trump.

This is anything but a small minority of crazy extremists, like Antifia.

I referred to those who stormed the Capitol.
They're the small portion.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Of course everyone brings up the one in the million as justification for abortion.

Well, that could kill a woman besides that the fetus would die anyway and never become a baby.