Just answer the question and stop behaving like an apologist.
I have answered the question.
Tell me clearly ─ what did Jesus' death achieve that an omnipotent God could not have achieved without bloodshed?
I think the post was clear enough.
Perhaps you can tell me how man's sin could be covered without breaking the standard of justice.
All of them. But let's start with the human sacrifice of Jephthah's daughter, which God set up and God required to be carried out ─ thus distinguishing it from the Moses & Aaron example earlier. Bear in mind that though a sacrifice was always required, only God knew at the time the deal was made that it would be Jephthah's daughter.
Human sacrifice?
What do you mean - killing someone, or giving them in service?
The principle that the state should act better than the eg murderer.
Whose principle? Yours.
The state does not carry out murder, when it executes justice.
When they kill a rabid wolf or other wild animal to protect civilians, is that murder, to you?
The state can give such people the rest of their lives and pay them compensation in such cases.
How do you pay someone who is murdered in prison, and how does money compensate for one being raped?
While that may be nothing to one who don't mind having their anus penetrated, it's something to one who minds, just like a girl being forced to have her privates penetrated.
When the state has killed someone, such reparations are impossible. Surely you could work that out for yourself? No? Then glad to have been of assistance.
When a prisoner has killed someone, and the State has killed someone, the individual is dead, in both cases.
You cannot compensate a dead man.
You have assisted yourself?
That is, you're indifferent to whether a state kills its citizens or not.
The State has a duty to protect its citizens.
How they do so, affects its citizens. However, that is their responsibility. Not mine.
Are you indifferent of how crooked businessmen run their business? Why don't you tell them?
Does it make you indifferent, because you do not get involved?
Whereas I think it's just plain wrong.
You are entitled to your opinion.
Dear old bloodthirsty Christianity! With a history of slavery and pogroms and crusades and armadas and colonizations and wars and other such events leading to the deaths of people regardless of their guilt or innocence. Maybe we should be like Joshua and put losing football teams to death, right? That seems to follow from your moral views.
More slander. That's not a moral excellence.
Slandering someone is immoral. You don't think so?
It means something along these lines: when homosexual people are getting on with their lives, do you think, 'It's their life, it's none of my business, I wish them well as my fellow humans'?
It's none of my business if you want to smoke cigars.
It's none of my business if you want to make your wife a punching bag, if that turns you on.
It's none of my business if you are happy with a 'rod' up your anus, and visa versa.
It's none of my business if you like to enjoy a threesome with your wife and thirteen, fourteen,... sixteen year old daughter.
However, I do not wish you well, since while you believe, you are absolutely right to do these things, because it does not hurt anyone. I disagree.
I believe there is righteousness, and unrighteousness. They cannot both be the same, depending on what people think.
You seriously don't know what 'supernatural' means? Wow, you need to get out more!
The natural world is the world external to the self, which we know about through our senses. 'Supernatural' is from the Latin for 'above nature' meaning not found in nature. The only way things and beings not found in nature are known to exist is as ideas, concepts, things imagined, in individual brains.
Examples of supernatural beings include God, witches (you don't suffer them to live, I take it?), angels, devils, non-human animals who can talk in human languages (ask Buridan), a whole range of imps, goblins, and other malicious entities, and so on. Then there are magic wands, other magic objects, magic places such as rivers, pools, caves, mountains, and so on.
So, your opinion is that this definition is wrong?
Supernatural - (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
Do you assert that God exists in reality? Or is [he] only found as a concept in individual brains?
What is reality?
Is it only what exists in your mind - i.e. only what you understand? Or does reality exist, outside of what man understands?
By holding the opinion that God does not have objective existence, exists only as a shared concept, a cultural idea ─ or the like.
Thank you.
That is what I have been telling atheists on here, but they are telling me, not.
holding the opinion that God does not have objective existence
In other words, the atheist is one who conscientiously holds the view that there is no God.
So, it is not the case that anyone can be an atheist.
No doubt. But some have been very sincere, truly committed, deeply believing ─ until they found they no longer were. That the stories just didn't jell with reality, for instance, but that's only one instance.
They believed, or held that view.
Would you say that atheist who once were, but realized that they were really ignoring the reality, were also sincere, in their previous view?
Yes, Christians are notoriously defensive about their position, and they're not the only believers who have such traits. It's a bit like Coca Cola saying Pepsi will poison you, the only TRUE drop is ours! (Or, OURS!!!!!).
Sounds a lot like atheism.
But ─ back to work! You were about to explain to me with limpid clarity what Jesus' death achieved that an omnipotent God could not have achieved without bloodshed.
And I'm waiting attentively for your reply.
If you don't give the answer, if you equivocate or avoid yet again, by this time it will be perfectly fair of me to conclude that you don't in fact know the answer.
Ah. The same ole blu... as he was seven threads long.... repeating himself over and over with the same thing he has already got a response to.
I guess, it's good to have such persons around, since they test your patience, and helps you see how you are doing in that area.