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    Why the crucifixion?

    Had some trouble making out all of what you were trying to say. But I do think we may agree that the separation was an attitudinal one - a question of trust really. As for the Greek words - I don't just look them up; I've been studying Koine Greek for more than a decade and have some...
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    Why the crucifixion?

    I understand that may be the intended message. Of course, I see it as s/he disagrees. I think some of the confusion comes from the degree to which we see Jesus' actions (the fruit of his beliefs) and words as typical of Judaism - at least the Judaism of his time.
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    Why the crucifixion?

    From what I can gather from your posts, I haven't been making sense to you for quite a while now. Doubt I can clear anything up for you. Sorry.
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Sojourner - "Don't lay that on me. you said it -- not me. You're the one who said that Xy consisted of what Jesus believed and taught. Jesus taught and believed Judaism. Since it's clear to anyone with a brain stem that Xy and Judaism are not the same thing, your statement must be false." Feel...
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Obviously to you. Not obvious to many Jews it would seem. Again, you are free to interpret my words as you wish. The reason I said the things I said is b/c they conveyed the meanings I intended to convey. I don't know how else to answer you. It would seem by your interpretation that...
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Originally Posted by sojourner "Christ believed and practiced as a Jew. Are you saying that Christianity is really Judaism?" It's not my intention to say that; though you are free, of course, to interpret it that way. It seems to me that the Jewish leaders in his day had significant issues...
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Maybe I'm just tired (long day), but I don't get your point.
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    Does "should" imply "can"?

    What was the name of the lecturer? I'd be curious. That's what I believe. I have a couple of posts on here you can check out if you're interested. One's called 'What is sin'; another, 'Why the crucifixion'; and another, 'The Gospel - according to me'. They go into a little more detail.
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    Does "should" imply "can"?

    I agree that 'should' assumes 'can'. Not a big fan of 'should' though. Often it merely expresses the preference of the speaker wrapped in 'authoritative' language. As for the OT part of your question: my understanding and belief concerning the Jewish law is that it was given to demonstrate...
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Are you saying Christianity should be based on someone else?
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Actually the assembly is the 'church', the body of Christ. Christianity is the beliefs and practices of Christ.
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    Why the crucifixion?

    I don't even know you. It seems to me there's always been some space between Christianity and the accepted understanding of Christianity at any given time throughout history. The likelihood that that is still the case is pretty high, I would think. But in the end I believe our 'professions'...
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Are you judging me? I'm certainly not judging you.
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Christians are those who believe as Christ believed, and follow his example. Calling oneself Christian does not a Christian make. And I use the word 'christendom' to refer to whatever passes for mainstream Christianity at a given time; whereas Christianity would be the actual thing.
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Well, as I said in my original post, to contrast actual faith in God and His sovereignty (the Kingdom of God) with the false religion of the world (good vs. evil). In other words, to show the acceptance inherent in Jesus understanding of God (the truth), and the murderousness inherent in the...
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    Why the crucifixion?

    Words and meanings do matter. Admittedly, I have not read/studied the original Hebrew. I have learned Koine Greek and studied both the NT and the Septuagint, though. My understanding is that the Septuagint is translated from older Hebrew texts than the oldest extant copies from which our OT...
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    Why the crucifixion?

    By saying that Adam was told not to eat and what would happen the day he did. Not IF he did, but on the day he did. That can easily be read to mean it was going to happen and God knew. Not to mention that if God is God, He would not only have known Adam would eat, but He must also have...
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    What am I?

    I took the test about a year or so ago, and I came out a liberal Quaker too. Interesting.
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    Why the crucifixion?

    The difference between PONEROS and KAKOS.
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    Why the crucifixion?

    I'm constantly learning. Today, for example, I learned that PONEROS is not the same as KAKOS - or rather, was reminded. Concerning our earlier posts you might also learn something by studying the difference between them if you're actually interested in understanding what I'm trying to say. If...
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