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  1. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    That depends upon which version of the bible you are referring to. Regardless, Killing is killing, dead is dead. So, weather killing is a "sin" or OK depends on the circumstances. Therefore, whether a given act is Immoral or not is not an absolute truth, rather, it is RELATIVE to the...
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    As I commented above, this view Seems to suggest it doesn't matter what the bible actually says. Instead, what matters is what I want it to mean. Then the words on the pages are not really the word of God, carved in stone, unwavering truths. Rather, They are as subjective and maliabe as there...
  3. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    I have not yet seen an answer to the question "what morality does the bible provide that cannot be achieved without it" ?
  4. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Now come the insults. So, your response to the points and questions I initially posed is that I am incompetent and don't know what I am talking about ? Sorry, that isn't very informative or enlightening regarding the subject matter.
  5. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    "A recommendation: you're in the Right lane. Drive slow until you learn the road." A recommendation, when you are condescending toward people, don't expect a welcome reception.
  6. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    You don't get to break the law by claiming your religion compels you to.
  7. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    So, it doesn't matter what the bible actually says, what matters is what I want it to mean. Then the words on the pages are not really carved in stone unwavering truths. They are as subjective as there are people who read them and decide what they "really" mean.
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    The reality is, christianity has many "gods" or other supernatural beings. There is God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. They have a stable of angels who do their bidding. Then there is satan and his band of demons. And what about the saints who perform miracles from the grave ? Christianity...
  9. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    It seems the bible hasn't got its story straight.
  10. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Resorting to personal insults always reveals a weak/lost argument based on its merits. Thank you.
  11. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Once again bible morality is subjective. For a human, bad, for a "God", no problem. In a made up fantasy world, it may be ok for the innocent to be punished for the crimes of the guilty. But in the real world, people are held accountable for their own crimes, the way it should be. Now, what...
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    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    Let's start with the jesus story. It says the sins of the guilty (all humanity) can be absolved by punishing the innocent (Jesus). Is that moral ?
  13. R

    The bible is a poor source for moral guidance

    According to Christianity, there is only one god, he is perfect, and bible morality is absolute. In fact, it is literally carved in stone. The problem with this is that we have one god setting out laws in the Old Testament for one group of people in one time, yet the same god setting out a...
  14. R

    Can a person choose to believe?

    What is "objective faith" ?
  15. R

    Can a person choose to believe?

    Sure, love is a feeling or emotion. Both change all the time. A person meets another, initially, he doesn't like him. After getting to know him better, he finds he really likes him. And of course the opposite can happen. The fact that the divorce rate is about 40% to 50% certainly indicates...
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    Can a person choose to believe?

    And what about all those that died despite prayers ? Would that suggest sometimes God decides to help, and sometimes he doesn't ? I would imagine the most common prayer spoken by billions of devoted people a billion times for thousands of years would be for world peace. Those prayers seemed...
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    Can a person choose to believe?

    Of course our understanding of science changes as new facts are discovered. That is what the scientific method is all about. But, unlike religion, it doesn't claim to be never changing absolute truth. Rather, it always stands ready to change when new facts emerge that challenge our current...
  18. R

    Can a person choose to believe?

    So, if there is something that we don't yet understand, your default assumption is "God did it" ? Why ? Are there no other possible explanations ? Isn't that how primitive man explained weather phenomena and disease ? We now know that God is not what causes storms or disease. Why do you...
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    Can a person choose to believe?

    There are an infinite number of world views and ways to be wrong. There is only one way to be correct and true. Science is THE discipline that seeks to know the one truth. Once it discovers truth, through the scientific method, it's discovery works reliably over and over and can be...
  20. R

    Can a person choose to believe?

    Please explain how you go from not believing in magic to not having any opinions at all. The only difference between atheists and you is that, of the millions of gods that have been imagined by man, atheists just believe in one less than you.
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