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  1. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    I think there's a big difference between scientific data and scripture though. How would we go about verifying the scripture, as we could if we had proper tools to verify the equation. What sort of tools would you need to verify a scripture?
  2. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    frames of reference aren't mystical. I'm not sure, but maybe you should have went to a school of some sort. A frame of reference is the standard way to say the position of the observer, You've obviously never even had a physical science course, one you didn't skip or get hight in, let alone a...
  3. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    But what if we can give you an equation for gravity that works, atleast on the macro level of weak forces, the ones you refer to, and is consistent?
  4. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    A cockroach views a rat as a genius too, Im sure
  5. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    I never mentioned "an eternal duck" of any kind. You did. Your trolling, plain and simple. I'm not the one that believes in god. You explain the "eternal duck"
  6. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    I did answer genius, about eight posts back.
  7. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    Objectivity deals with the possible, subjectivity deals with the relative. What I mean by this, is kind of what I've been saying about the stupid Duck. To look at something objectively, you have to consider all available frames of reference. To look at it subjectively, you only need one frame...
  8. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    I agree that reality is subjective, but I think only in comparison to what we percieve as "real", or "reality". I think that what can be verified by one observer should be verfiable by all observers.
  9. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    absolute means encompasses the idea as a whole in this context. Look the word up, now you just sound silly. Have you been to bed yet? I have a blue duck. John has a red one. I rip the feathers and beak off the blue duck, and now he's pink, with no feathers and no bill. I set him on fire. Then...
  10. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    However, I can see where the expectations of those tests could be percieved as faith. BUT, if the scientific process has been proven sucessful, should we not accept, rather than have faith, that the tests will give accurate results, or do you suggest that accepting something, even with proof, is...
  11. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    Sure i have :D i took chemistry. I actually enjoyed chemistry Also, you can't make the mistake of confusing "faith" with "understanding" I can understand something, know how the tests work, view the data for myself, and come to a conclusion, without having to have faith in the fact the...
  12. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    physicists do, not much we can do about it. Absolute can also mean perfecly emodying the nature of a thing, or fundemental and true, unfallibe, unchangable and CONSTANT. While absolute can also be used to describe things as whole, it also means that it does not change. Or in the case of...
  13. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    No. But I have met a duck. So have most people. Most people, when they think of a duck, will think of the duck they personally met. That duck is not the idea of a duck. The idea of a duck, is what i have when someone says, Duck. I don't think of a cow, or at least what a cow looks like to me. I...
  14. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    Dude, that's just a load of crap lol. You are philosophising the theory of relativity. This is simply two ways of saying the same thing: the speed of light is measured the same for all observers, not because the speed of light is absolute, but because it is the same no matter what your speed...
  15. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    sure it is. I dont mean left to right. You can walk flat land for miles and miles, and never see but a certain distance behind you, no matter good your vision is or how barren it is. The higher on the mountain, the further you see, because you are further from the curvature of the surface.
  16. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    thats even easier that flying around the world :rolleyes:
  17. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    Okay, so that one is a bit tougher. This might seem like a cop out, but it's not. I don't necessarily believe in the Big Bang. I'm "agnostic" about it, until unrefutable evidence surfaces. This is also why I don't buy into string theory, and the vibrations determining the charge of electrons and...
  18. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    He must be referring back to his wikki... maybe the mirriam webster this time? I like how you tried to spin the word absolute, too. The reason the speed of light is considered "absolute" is because it is the same for all observers. That's all that matters, in any frame of reference. And...
  19. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    Ive said the same thing the entire time. The IDEA of a duck is absolute. No matter who thinks of a duck, they think of a duck. You don't look at a duck and come to the conclusion that it is a cow, unless you came to that conlusion erronously The problem is, you are confusing a duck with the laws...
  20. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    I NEVER SAID that lenght of space OR time was absolute. I said they were relative to C, which is absolute. I said that we measure what is relative, in relation to what is absolute.
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