Ben, you did not give your interpretation of the versus I posted. I only asked because you disagreed with me and said - "That's absolutely not what I understand from his response."
Jesus threatened the temples destruction - and - claimed to be the messiah. All four gospels tell of a hearing...
Agree. And I agree with India's Ambassador:
"India's Ambassador Gopinathan Achamkulangare said the resolution "inappropriately" linked religious criticism to racism."
We should be able to criticize what we please. This takes away a valuable freedom.
It may well be - but - the two verses I quoted make much more sense. By your reasoning, That would also mean that the majority of the NT is a contradiction of Matthew 5:17 - 19.
There are contradictions in 'all' religions.
If you do not accept my view of the two quotes I posted - What then...
That's good to hear.
Correct. I will never believe that black dogs are evil and should be killed. This belief should disappear.
I see - you are only sure when the animal is black.
This thought process is happening only because you believe every word of your religion. Unfortunately...
What I meant is that I am able to listen to other opinions with an open mind. I am a slave to no one. I would never say - as you have said - that I am not allowed to think for myself .
You:"well muslims aren't allowed to "think" for themseves,"
So these stories are the only proof you need...
Please show me where I said you must 'accept' what others tell you ? What I said only means that I am able to 'listen' to what others say with an open mind. I then make a personal judgment on what was said.
So.. because of this story - black dogs are satan and should be killed ? You are...
Non Muslims are to be kept away from Islam ? They are not allowed to learn ?
No - I would never say that. You keep saying I said things that I never said. Please quote me when you accuse me of something.
And here is where the word (exactly) belongs.
You have been shown 'proof' that black...
You said..
You: "a lot of the hadith have been tempered with, and the reason for that is to keep people such as your self away from islam"
That certainly sounds like me.
Exactly what ? The closed mind belongs to you.
You: "well muslims aren't allowed to "think" for themseves,"
You...
Hey Ben. Correction noted.
I agree that Jesus was a religious Jew - I do not fully agree with your full assessment. Jesus was clearly referencing Judaism in his teaching (I don't know how anyone could deny that) - however - In your 'My views on Jesus' thread I did point out some of Jesus'...
Ben has been systematically picking apart your religion - in a very clever way. I understand - he feels his religion has been hijacked... correct me if I am wrong of course Ben.
Ben and I probably agree on more than he realizes... (Maybe Jesus was married, maybe he didn't die on the cross...
They have been tampered with to keep me away from Islam ? Well then I praise that tampering - I want nothing to do with a God that calls me a vile beast and that says he does not Love me.
I knew what you were trying to say. I never said that I do not take in what others tell me - That would...
So they were used to trick people in to believing that they were the words of God ? To make them fear ?
These were laws written down - yet - they were never followed ? Is that not disobeying the laws of your holy books?
"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for...
There was no exercise into futility. These are punishments to be carried out per your holy books. They are written as if they are the word of God.
Are these punishments not a detailed law-code by which the Children of Israel are to live in the Promised Land ?
Were these laws not be followed...
The proof is in my open mind. I am able to see good and bad everywhere - I do not believe the West is perfect - And I do not believe that Islam is without merits.
Not Correct. My conclusions come from reading the Koran and Hadith. There is good with the bad - that is the problem. As with the...
Reply to Eselam:
Untrue. It has nothing to do with the 'west's' way. It has to do with having an open mind and being able to judge what is happening around you.
And.. you agree with Eselam that Muslims are not allowed to 'think' for themselves... and humans are slaves to their dogs.?? That...
Ben's mission - judging by the threads he has started - is to discredit Christianity. I have no problem with that - other than that he sees perfection within his own religion that I believe is not there.
But... for you.. a Christian, to read his posts and thank him and Thank him - I find that...
Since this thread is about the mark of the beast... I would like to continue pointing out marks I have seen. These marks supposedly come from a Loving, Caring God.
It is so difficult for many to be objective of the religion they follow. If they believe it to be 'perfect' - they never will...
Your comparison is nonsensical. I am speaking of punishments commanded by a supposedly loving God. You are speaking of death sentences ordered by the courts.
The punishment for murder is one thing. Islam kills for much more mundane reasons.