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  1. TiggerII

    Clear Challenges to the Trinity Doctrine

    Let's examine, one by one, what should be found in scripture (if the trinity were true): (A) Please carefully and thoroughly search to find a vision, dream, or clear description in scripture wherein God is shown as more than one person. Here is what I have found when searching the scriptures...
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    Is Jesus God?

    .............................................. Some of these trinitarian sources which admit that the Bible actually describes men who represent God (judges, faithful Israelite kings, etc.) and God’s angels as gods (or a god) include: 1. Young’s Analytical Concordance of the Bible, “Hints...
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    Is Jesus God?

    ................................................ Even the trinitarian Greek expert, W. E. Vine, (although, for obvious reasons, he chooses not to accept it as the proper interpretation) admits that the literal translation of John 1:1c is: “a god was the Word”. - p. 490, An Expository Dictionary...
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    Psalms 141:7 and jw.org and Jehovah's Witnesses

    Qeber Meaning in Bible - Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon - New American Standard (biblestudytools.com)
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    Is Jesus God?

    Pearl - post #15: It is more likely that the phrase here is praise (doxology) or blessing of God in heaven. Notice that there is no complete statement here - there is no verb and predicate. These are omitted because the meaning is commonly understood by Christians and Jews at this time...
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    Is Jesus God?

    1 Timothy 3:16 Noted Bible scholar Dr. Frederick C. Grant writes: “A capital example [of NT manuscript changes] is found in 1 Timothy 3:16, where ‘OS’ (OC or ὃς, ‘who’) was later taken for theta sigma with a bar above, which stood for theos (θεὸς, ‘god’). Since the new reading suited …. the...
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    Is Jesus God?

    ....................................... 1 Tim. 3:16 ("God was manifest in the flesh") As this is translated in the KJV it makes Paul say that Jesus is God “manifest in the flesh.” Although the KJV translates 1 Tim. 3:16 with “God” as above, nearly all other translations today use a word...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    From end note #8 in my study of John 1:1c (DEF): Ambiguous Article Usage Accompanies Nouns With "Prepositional" Constructions It is well known by NT Greek scholars that there are certain things which may cause the use (or non-use) of the definite article to be so ambiguous and arbitrary as to...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    From Oeste’s response to my #1061: But here is what he has left out: #1061: ….…………………. Obviously I was concerned with parallel examples to John 1:1c which Oeste’s quote completely ignores. His examples of John 1:6 and John 1:1a are not even close to the grammar of John1:1c. In fact it is...
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    Watchtower: Jesus is not "a god"!

    Reply to Oeste #1093 ….……………………………….. The quote you refer to from a 1962 WT: As you should know by now, whether someone does not claim to be a Baptist, a prophet, a doctor, etc. does not mean that he is not! Since Jesus never claimed at any time to be God or a god, does not, by itself...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    John 8:58 (Continued) "I Have Been" as Translation for Present Tense ego eimi Yes, the NWT (and a few others) renders John 8:58 as "before Abraham came into existence, I have been (perfect tense)." Here's why: Trinitarian NT Greek scholar, Daniel B. Wallace wrote: A. Extending-from-Past...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    John 8:58 (Continued) This instance of Jesus saying ego eimi convinced some of the Jews that he was claiming to be the Messiah (so they attempted to stone him to death on the spot). Later, Jesus was taken before the high priest and all the chief priests and questioned by them (Matt. 26:59-66...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    aft wrote: ............................................ Some trinitarians claim that Jesus was declaring himself to be Jehovah God because he said “I AM” (ego eimi [egw eimi] in the original NT Greek) at John 8:58. Their reasoning goes like this: Exodus 3:14 in some English Bible translations...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    aft wrote: “John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.” ….………………………… T2: It is far from surprising that trinitarian scholars would prefer the 'God' translation at John 1:1c and ignore any other honest alternate. However, notice this...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    aft wrote: Matt. 4:7 Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” ........................................ T2: If Jesus had jumped as Satan wanted, he would be testing his Father ["the Lord your God"] who had said He would send angels to save him...
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    So Jesus is not God?

    Good point! Thanks. However, since I don't know for sure, I'll probably persist for a while.
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    So Jesus is not God?

    ......................................... Is. 9:6 All Christians, I believe, accept this son as being the Christ. Some will tell you that since the meaning of this symbolic name includes the words "Mighty God, Eternal Father," then Jesus is the Mighty God and the Eternal Father." But there...
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    So Jesus is not God?

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    So Jesus is not God?

    ......................................................... Worship (Proskuneo - Greek and shachah (Hebrew) The Greek word proskuneo (or proskyneo) is defined in the 1971 trinitarian United Bible Societies' A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament, p. 154: "[Proskuneo] worship...
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    JWs & The Bible

    Mathew 28:6 uses the Greek word ἠγέρθη which can be translated either as "he was raised up" or "he has risen." See Mounce; NAB; NRSV; ISV; GW; etc.
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