Dogknox continues to repeat his same old diatribe, but refuses to do any actual research as I have requested:
"tigger2 Jesus is God... Christians have always believed Jesus is God!
NOT ONE of the 60 plus scripture scholars; bible interpreters say the letter "A" should be in John 1! NOT ONE"...
Posted much earlier in response to your frequent statements like that above about John 1:1c.
"If you should actually examine my study, you will see that all the 18 truly parallel examples to John 1:1c found in John’s writings are translated into the major Bible translations as indefinite: ‘a...
John 1:18 does not tell us that Jesus is God.
Justin Martyr
(c. 100-165 A.D.)
Justin, whom the trinitarian The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church (p. 770)...
"a god"
Notice how these 7 different translations use the word “god” (or ‘godlike’), clearly differentiating between it and the only true God!
Even the trinitarian Greek expert, W. E. Vine, (although, for obvious reasons, he chooses not to accept it as the proper interpretation) admits that...
1 John 5:7 (KJV) continued
“(A) EXTERNAL EVIDENCE. (1) The passage is absent from every known Greek manuscript except four, and these contain the passage in what appears to be a translation from a late recension of the Latin Vulgate. These four manuscripts are ms. 61 [this is ms. 34 in...
#40 1 John 5:7 (KJV)
1 John 5:7
The King James Version (A. D. 1611) says at 1 Jn 5:7: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
Of course even this would not mean the three...
Worship
The Greek word proskuneo (or proskyneo) is defined in the 1971 trinitarian United Bible Societies’ A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament, p. 154: “[Proskuneo] worship; fall down and worship, kneel, bow low, fall at another’s feet.”
Even the trinitarian W. E...
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Immanuel
Should Jesus really be considered to be God because he was symbolically “named” Immanuel (Is. 7:14; Mt. 1:23) which means “God is with us”? No more so than Gabriel was calling himself God when he visited Mary and declared...
1 Tim. 3:16 ("God was manifest in the flesh") - KJV
1 Tim. 3:16 ("He was made manifest in flesh") - NWT
As this is translated in the KJV it makes Paul say that Jesus is God “manifest in the flesh.”
Although the KJV translates 1 Tim. 3:16 with “God” as above, nearly all other translations...
Of course the conclusion is false! It was meant to show you the error in your own conclusion in the post above mine. However, the premise was correct. Try actually reading John 17:22.
The quote I gave is accurate! I even gave the source (as we're supposed to): John 17:22, NASB.
'God is three' means God is three persons and it is not in scripture.
If you can find one single place in the entire scriptures where God is described with the word "three," I'll gladly change my personal study which says otherwise.
And if you can show where God is depicted (vision, dream...
Please give proper references to your quotes.
Irenaeus’ “Against Heresies” exists today in full only in a single Latin translation from the original Greek language. It is thus not surprising that trinitarian-supporting “evidence” may be found in the single trinitarian-recopied...
If you can find one single place in the entire scriptures where God is described with the word "three," I'll gladly change my personal study which says otherwise.
And if you can show where God is depicted (vision, dream, description, etc.) as three in undisputed scripture, I'd be equally amazed.
"Dogknox, if you can show me one single verse of scripture which describes God with the word "three," I will take your research and comments more seriously.
"I believe that most (if not all) trinity explanations and creeds do use the word "three." But it hasn't come from scripture!"...
Dogknox wrote: "The very idea of Jesus being Michael the Archangel was unheard of before Charles Taze Russell"
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JWs were not the first to believe that Michael the Archangel is also the Messiah. In fact, it was known before Christianity, during the earliest...
Dogknox, if you can show me one single verse of scripture which describes God with the word "three," I will take your research and comments more seriously.
I believe that most (if not all) trinity explanations and creeds do use the word "three." But it hasn't come from scripture!
Thank you, Clear.
Here's a link to my full study of the History of the Trinity. The numerous comments at the end of the pages (after the triple red lines) do not necessarily reflect my research.
Examining the Trinity: History of the 'Christian' Trinity - HIST (part 1)
If you can find one single place in the entire scriptures where God is described with the word "three," I'll gladly change my personal study which says otherwise.
John 17:22. “The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them; that they may be one [hen], just as we are one [hen].” - NASB.
Premise: Jesus said his followers are one just as he and the Father are one.
Conclusion: Jesus' true followers are God.
Dogknox wrote: "Arius WAS a Christian until he taught "Jesus is not god" Arius was then removed from the Christians and placed OUTSIDE of the Christian communion!"
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Three views were advocated at the Nicene council. (Actually, the real question to be...