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  1. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    I don't find it hard to have empathy with those in this world in dire need, with the child who has lost her mother and father in Ukraine, with the victims of terrible abuse (often from their own family members). I do find it hard to have empathy with those who complain about their 'hard...
  2. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    So why the fear?
  3. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    God gave Himself, in the Person of Jesus. As the hymn goes: "There was no other good enough To pay the price of sin He (Jesus) only could unlock the gate Of heaven and let us in".
  4. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    Jesus made the claim to be God in many different ways, and those who heard Him knew exactly what He was saying.
  5. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    How sad. "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love". 1 John 4:18
  6. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    Right. So you were wrong when you said that a friend in your religion had been shoving that belief down your throat.
  7. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    That is not what he did? Now you are contradicting yourself. No, because you have fallen for the fallacy of Hasty Generalization.
  8. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    Nor do Christians. Hearing from Jesus is the same as hearing from God. But of course Jesus is more than a mere messenger.
  9. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    In that case, your friend is in a cult. Only those who are members of a cult would 'shove their beliefs down your throat'.
  10. samtonga43

    Homosexuality and religious.

    The way I think of this is that freewill means that we are capable of choosing, while freedom of choice means that it is possible for us to choose.
  11. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    If your religion shoved beliefs down your throat, you are a member of a cult. Probably too late to get out now, but do try to speak to someone.
  12. samtonga43

    Finding a new church or worship center

    The facts are above for all to see, SZ. You are full of bluster and it signifies nothing.
  13. samtonga43

    Finding a new church or worship center

    No false conclusion there, SZ. It appears that you simply do not understand the illogicity inherent in the following: SZ has the ability to demonstrate the difference between A. and B. Therefore Sam does not understand the difference between knowledge and belief. Get a grip, SZ. You can do...
  14. samtonga43

    Legitimate reasons not to believe in God

    1. What makes a religion great? 2. Would an a-theist view any religion as 'great'?
  15. samtonga43

    Finding a new church or worship center

    *** Let’s retrace our steps: SZ: Too bad that you do not even understand the difference between knowledge and belief. SAM: What makes you think that I don't understand the difference between knowledge and belief, SZ? SZ: Because I have the ability to demonstrate the difference. Do you...
  16. samtonga43

    Finding a new church or worship center

    Here’s what I said: "Bogus claims? Do you mean claims that you know are bogus, or claims that you believe are bogus?" What is it about the above that makes you think I am angry, SZ? Do you know? :) I am really not, SZ This appears to be a case of projection on your part; maybe something to...
  17. samtonga43

    Finding a new church or worship center

    Here’s what I said: "Bogus claims? Do you mean claims that you know are bogus, or claims that you believe are bogus?" What is it about the above that makes you think I am angry, SZ?
  18. samtonga43

    Finding a new church or worship center

    Bogus claims? Do you mean claims that you know are bogus, or claims that you believe are bogus?
  19. samtonga43

    Homosexuality and religious.

    Too many 'eths', too many 'yes'. People just do not speak like this any more. Jesus speaks to us now just as we speak to each other, in the 'language of the market place'. This is 2022, not 1611. Ask, Search, Knock “Ask, and it will be given to you; search, and you will find; knock, and the...
  20. samtonga43

    Finding a new church or worship center

    Yes, I had a feeling this would be your answer. But maybe you could answer this question; are you a hard atheist or a soft atheist? In other words, do you know that there are no gods, or do you believe there are no gods?
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