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    Jesus is God?

    Greetings, Muffled! 　 yrgo (#538): Was "the man Christ Jesus" (a) an Incarnation of THE FATHER HIMSELF (b) or was "the man Christ Jesus" an incarnation of a Being OTHER THAN THE FATHER (c)? (a) 1Ti 2.5; cf. Ac 2.22 (b) "human body + Spirit of God" (#523) (c) a human body + a Being...
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    Do you understand the New Testament

    Greetings, AK4 (on or before Jan 4)! 　 yrgo (#1088): Although believing that Proverbs 21.1 was written with one particular king in mind and either by that selfsame king or one of his subjects, yrgo finds that the language of Proverbs 21.1 "fits" Jesus perfectly (a) and may be...
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    Do you understand the New Testament

    Greetings, AK4! 　 Proverbs 21.1, modified NIV: "THE king's heart is in the hand of the LORD; he directs it like a watercourse wherever he pleases." 　 AK4 (#1084): . . . In that verse it is talking about an "individual" . . . 　 yrgo: 　 I agree. And not...
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    Do you understand the New Testament

    Greetings, AK4! 　 Proverbs 21.1, NIV: "The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD; he directs it like a watercourse wherever he pleases." 　 yrgo (#1079): " . . . Proverbs 21.1 . . . need not receive the same careful consideration presently being given to other points you...
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    Do you understand the New Testament

    Greetings, AK4! 　 Your Post #1077 has just been found and printed out, but a quick look at Proverbs 21.1 and 16.1 has already convinced me that those scriptures need not receive the same careful consideration presently being given to other points you have made and to other scriptures you...
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    Do you understand the New Testament

    Greetings, AK4! 　 Your response (1070-1072) to Posts 1068-1069 has just been found and printed out and will soon be read with great care. 　 All the best to you!
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    Do you understand the New Testament

    Continuation of Post #1068 　 　 NOTE: the Father (Mt 7.21) = God (Mk 3.35); cf. Jn 4.23-24 God (Mk 3.35) = the Father (Mt 7.21); cf. Jn 16.27-28 　 SAYS JESUS (Mt 7.21, modified NIV): " 21 'NOT EVERYONE who says to me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of...
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    Do you understand the New Testament

    Greetings, AK4! 　 theosopher (#1035): " . . . How can anyone ask god for help with no will? . . . Moses said in these books I put before you life and death, choose life." 　 yrgo: In the miniseries "The Thornbirds," a Roman Catholic archbishop, commenting on the Ancient...
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    Jesus is God?

    Greetings, Muffled! 　 　 Muffled (#536): "I don't agree that you [Post 523] have correctly assessed my logic [Post 518] but I appreciate the attempt." yrgo: Enjoyed making the attempt. 　 Muffled (#536): "I am not sure what you are saying here." 　 yrgo...
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    Jesus is God?

    Or the obviously NOT.... THERE IS NO FREE WILL, BUT THERE ARE ALWAYS SURPRISES FOR THE DEITY. :)
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    Jesus is God?

    Dirty Penguin (#531): " . . . Why would an omniscient create us according to its plan but punish us if we deviate from it? How could we even be deviating from it? Wouldn't it be the plan for us to be doing exactly what we are doing? There should be no such thing, in the omniscience's view...
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    Jesus is God?

    Greetings, roddio! 　 roddio (#527): What did Jesus do that God wouldve done different? God bless 　 yrgo: 　 On the one hand, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Jesus did God's will (a); obviously, God Himself would do the same. 　 On the other hand, PROBABLY VERY LITTLE...
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    Jesus is God?

    Greetings, Muffled! Tiapan (#516): Jesus a human = God a non human Don't sound right to me by definition. Cheers Muffled (#518): This is an argument that Muslims like to make. I disagree with your definitions. Jesus is a human. This is only partially true in that Jesus had...
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    Jesus is God?

    Greetings, trinitarians! 　 　 Dirty Penguin (#265): If he was in heaven with his own separate will and had to be given power then there is no way he can be God. In order to be given there must be a giver. In order to be taught there must be a teacher. In order to be sent there...
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