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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    That is conjecture to state Jesus would not eventually do the same as Paul. Jesus had a very specific duty to fulfill, and so did everyone else involved. Your position won't stand if it is only supported by an opinion that Jesus would have never taught that. After all, he talked about...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    Wise words, indeed. I will try to tread better. I in no wise am bitter for being corrected. However, I believe the spirit of this thread is for someone to present written contradictions between Paul and Jesus. However, I will say this about your link, it is full of questions and discussions...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    That is taught in the bible where? Again, can you try to have a discussion about biblical contradictions. If your only recourse is that I go to wikipedia to be educated, than please just drop out or carry on, whatever. My defense against this position is simply this. Paul's teachings mirror...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    So are suggesting there is no instance of Paul reaching out to people and putting his life on the line for the message of Love? Jesus did say Love you enemy, however, he still told people the way it was. He didn't just say listen Elder that doesn't like me, give me a hug. No, he got them so...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    Again, your zeal is commendable, but again your insistence that I look elsewhere first before we can discuss the bible is not in the scope of this discussion, UNLESS you can cite some verses in the bible about contradictions and then want me to go read something further that expounds on that...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    OK fair enough, you bring to light something that states that story in the bible is in question. In and of itself is an interesting article. However, Jesus forgave on more than one occasion, by telling someone to go and sin no more. Unless you have an article for each of those occurrences (and...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    Indeed as the story goes everyone is a sinner, though not Jesus. So when Jesus tells someone to "sin no more" what is meant by that? Surely he wasn't naive enough to think they would never sin again was he? That just doesn't have merit. What does have merit is that the experience, or...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    Forgive me for the misuse of my vocabulary, it would be better to say conjecture. Though I could still make an argument for projection. Not important to this discussion though, so let's substitute conjecture. You have such a distaste for Paul, you do in fact define or attempt to define Paul in...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    So here is what is perplexing me. I made an ***umption, that many would respond readily with scriptural contradictions. I read over and over how Paul raped, and hijacked Jesus's message. So where are all those people now? I started this thread stating I had spent the last couple weeks...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    Thank you I think, but did I miss something?
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    So, to recap: Contradiction 1: Jesus didn't want to teach the Gentiles, or looked at gentiles as lower class. Contradiction 2: Jesus taught till all things are fulfilled the Law would in no way leave, and Paul taught the Law wasn't that important so to speak. Contradiction 3: Jesus sat with...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    Great thanks. Do you think that Jesus merely sat with sinners and sinned with them? Surely that is not how you are framing Jesus's relationship with sinners while he eat are you? Paul, as well would have and did indeed deal closely and stay with sinners in their houses. The intent in both...
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    How Enlighten Was Buddha

    Don't know what does he say?
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    How Enlighten Was Buddha

    Why must accepting something eliminate the fear of that thing?
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    Christianity served another black eye by one of its own

    Skwim, not only does the bible teach that MANY would be led astray, it also says we have plenty to do by examining ourselves. Working on our own lives could take 50 lifetimes, so there isn't much room to go around playing police. I am not saying I am not angered to read or hear stuff like that...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    I am changeable. So my inferences are only as stable as the truth I am exposed too. Hence the thread. I told you personally in another thread, I am not a preacher, teacher or any other thing on a mission. You replied, you would hold me to that. I expect no less from you. I am presenting what I...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    Thank you for the response. That certainly is a good point. You spoke of several points though, so I am going to start with your first one, and we can go from there. Is that OK? What exactly do you think people mean when they say all things were fulfilled at Christ? What is you understanding...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    Very well, thank you too. To review your main point, Jesus may not have intended to expound to the gentiles, and Paul may have taken this upon himself. I hope that is safe enough to paraphrase you, because I want to make sure I understand your point. If that is correct, can we not look at the...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    You possitive about that? You have been here longer, but somehow I doubt that. Can anyone else comment on this? So, then what you are saying is you know of nothing that Jesus said or in your opinion, that the bible says Jesus says, that contradicts anything Paul said? It really is a simply...
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    Discuss Paul's contradictions with Jesus?

    Now where did Jesus teach this? Also, did he teach this, to a point, or did he say they must be observed till all things are fulfilled? Please provide text and clarification.
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