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  1. osgart

    Is loving your enemies a good thing ?

    Self interest isn't the primary motives of the virtues
  2. osgart

    Is loving your enemies a good thing ?

    Unconditional love is deserved upon being someone of spiritual worth. It's not meant for some rejectable offender. True love is grounded in the virtues.
  3. osgart

    Is loving your enemies a good thing ?

    To me love your enemies means give them what they truthfully deserve so they can see who they are and what their actions represent. Giving them according to what virtue necessitates they get. I hope it don't mean giving them sweeties, and tender mercies as if they didn't do anything severely...
  4. osgart

    Who is your spiritual teacher?

    Language itself, and how words and meanings fit together and relate is my spiritual teacher. The necessity of words and meanings as representative of reality, and actuality intrigues me. Words are ingenious actualities and quite necessary. Many words are jumping off points into a deeper...
  5. osgart

    The Pursuit of Knowledge vs. The Pursuit of Wisdom

    What about the knowledge of how to make nuclear weapons? Shall we allow N. Korea, and Iran to produce nuclear? Anything that gives power can be used for good, or bad. Knowledge bears responsibility.
  6. osgart

    The Pursuit of Knowledge vs. The Pursuit of Wisdom

    I would say we have a declining middle class for that reason. A lot of people end up poor. The world's wealth is concentrated in the hands of a small number of people, with the top 1% of the world's population owning more than 40% of global financial assets and 50% of global assets. Top 1%...
  7. osgart

    The Pursuit of Knowledge vs. The Pursuit of Wisdom

    I would classify that as a different type of wisdom. I was looking at the wisdom of the direction of humanity as a whole. There are moral/ethical imperatives in regards to wisdom. It's not entirely a moral term. I don't think all wisdom is the same. If people live their lives as a cogs in the...
  8. osgart

    The Pursuit of Knowledge vs. The Pursuit of Wisdom

    No two people can totally agree on what's good, and bad. Although almost everyone knows when they are being treated well, or poorly. I'm quite sure there are clear universal moral standards that are common to all, and should be quite obvious though language is often obfuscated so that what...
  9. osgart

    How do people stay sane and happy in a world of misery?

    I get exhausted from empathy overload. So learning that I can't control and am not directly responsible for the world's problems helps me remember only to focus on what's relevant, applicable, interesting and worthwhile to life in general, and my life in particular. I pick and choose the news...
  10. osgart

    More than 5 senses? (Spirituality)

    I think introspective recognition of one's own character traits is a spiritual sense that people have. Feelings correlation with understandings, and in relation to experiences is a language of a spiritual sense within one's self. There is a sense where it may be easier to observe the behavior...
  11. osgart

    If We All Became God?

    I just word things differently. My wording is that lies are never a good thing, but fibs are. But to conform to your wording, yes, fibs are acceptable lies.
  12. osgart

    If We All Became God?

    In your book of definitions yes. To me a lie is deceiving someone to harm them, or for immoral gain. A lie in your book is merely an intentional falsehood. When I think of lying I think bad things. That's the first reaction.
  13. osgart

    If We All Became God?

    Intentional falsehoods that are good, or benign are fibs. Intentional falsehoods that are malicious are lies. So I use the word lie only in the bad sense. That wraps that up? :shrug:
  14. osgart

    If We All Became God?

    I word it differently because of the stark contrast in motives that are contrary; malice vs. honorable and benign. I don't like to mince and mingle my meanings when they are clearly different things.
  15. osgart

    If We All Became God?

    The obvious case is to protect life from people who if they had information about someone would use it to do harm, and damage. The murderer doesn't need truth about a potential victim's location for instance. So if pressed for sensitive information, or private truth matters I would either stay...
  16. osgart

    If We All Became God?

    That's mixing words and blending them together as if they are the same. To call out someone as a liar would be a strong statement against doing bad deeds. Instead it makes lying an ambiguous term that could be good or bad. I'd rather not ignore the severity of lies. There's a big difference...
  17. osgart

    If We All Became God?

    How about differentiating a fib from a lie. A lie is to deceive with malicious, or undeserved, criminal intent. A fib is to deceive in order to withhold undeserved information perhaps for privacy and/or protection. A fib can also be told to achieve an outcome that is harmless and only...
  18. osgart

    Question about the natural world for atheists

    Grateful acceptance of what got me to this point in life, and humility to accept what's forever beyond my control to do anything about. If there's no afterlife I've surrendered to that possibility. I can still live with principles, virtues, and love for all the people in my life, and entertain...
  19. osgart

    Why Scientists Mostly Reject Spirituality

    Applying wisdom, morals and ethics from a spiritual understanding to guide why, and what is done in science. That's what I meant!
  20. osgart

    Why Scientists Mostly Reject Spirituality

    1) Inner experience of being 2) Understanding one's own inner experience from being objective about one's own subjective experience. Seeing about what exists and what wisdom can be learned from one's own inner experience. Meditation, introspection, asking questions, and attempting to relate to...
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