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  1. osgart

    Why Scientists Mostly Reject Spirituality

    As a method of inquiry they are totally different. Of course if you want to marry them in the sense of how you apply science to ethical, and moral dilemmas then why not. :). However, there's a lot of bad spirituality out there.
  2. osgart

    Why Scientists Mostly Reject Spirituality

    Spirituality deals with the qualitative properties of the inner experience if it's a worthy spirituality. That takes introspective objectivity, and years of experience in relation to self, environment, and others. Analyzing qualitative reality based on inner experience is elusive, and is mainly...
  3. osgart

    Where should the "I don't know" go?

    The definition comes first because it's important to know what God is before proceeding. Secondly it's important to see where your starting point as a human being in the world is; what do I know for sure, and what sources of knowledge do I have available, and what are the limits of what can...
  4. osgart

    Questions for God

    So then let it all run free and if evil happens to someone just stand by , watch til the appointed time. People say God saved my marriage yet natural disease for a youth who becomes terminal, no such interference. Everything is as God intended with the natural disease and the evil. They must...
  5. osgart

    Subservience? (Religion)

    There's a way of life I'm very committed to, and from it I give higher power to it. I don't think the reality of life on Earth is conducive to following a higher power. Earth is a severe survival game with no real purpose to it with a brute natural world. My higher power exists only in...
  6. osgart

    Optimism vs. Pessimism

    Squarely in the middle, so I call that being an objectivist. I know things can always get worse. And often things can be made better too. However you never know til you know.
  7. osgart

    How important is “romantic” love in romantic relationships?

    I think romance can never be manufactured, or contrived. With respect, and mutual deservedness romance comes naturally. The in love feeling is like earning it at heart. Putting the romance where it's deserved. Romance is like a deserved attraction that stems from being appreciated, and...
  8. osgart

    Death and taking life from a living creature

    I am compassionate towards people I value as deserving such compassion. Being blindly compassionate would wear me out or put a drain on my life, energy and accountability. I otherwise don't have to be involved with people I have compassion for. I can think of people I have compassion for that...
  9. osgart

    Death and taking life from a living creature

    Do you have an example of such error? I find compassion to be faultless. Agreed. It's not easy to find representative words that signify the abuses that can happen when someone is denigrated, damaged, harmed, and tormented. Innocent is to have proper care, and to be without malice toward...
  10. osgart

    Death and taking life from a living creature

    Morality is heartfelt acceptability vs. heartfelt rejectable things. It's protecting life and the causes for life. To be moral is to be for life for others and self. Anything that promotes, and causes peace, and that which upholds virtue for the sake of love. That which denigrates, damages...
  11. osgart

    Death and taking life from a living creature

    If we allowed murder there wouldn't be much of a civilization to live in. Since morality is about what is offensive, and rejectable vs. that which promotes peace, and is lovable, and tolerable, I think it goes beyond mere benefit, and preference. Morality is definitely not whim of preference...
  12. osgart

    Did we fail God or did God fail us ?

    Freedom of evil again, from an all powerful God creating life without any responsibility towards how they are treated/tempted in the Garden. And that wasn't God's first mistake. Creating Satan with angelic power without any foresight on what evil Satan could choose to do, and then after...
  13. osgart

    A lot Of People Talk About Needing Evidence To Believe There’s A God

    Life is definitely evidence of the qualitative aspect of reality that cannot be explained with physical mechanisms. Things such as memory, reasoning ability, and understanding among many other qualities are qualities of life that have an aboutness that you cannot find just looking at physical...
  14. osgart

    Did we fail God or did God fail us ?

    God is complicit in allowing temptation to God's new creations. Contradiction, plain and simple. God is Omni which means nothing happens that is out of his reach. The serpent could have been prevented but was allowed instead. Or did the serpent operate off away from God's detection? In which...
  15. osgart

    Let's Talk About Arthurian Legend

    I would call those immoral character flaws on the part of Gawain's more severely, but Arthur as well. I think it is a virtue in a way to love the unlovable in principle. I would say Arthur blindly loved him. I idealized Arthur in the Camelot version, but he is none so innocent here...
  16. osgart

    Let's Talk About Arthurian Legend

    That is definitely spot on. Seems to me that they all did their best when the unexpected events happened, and I don't think Arthur loved her the way Lancelot did. Maybe sometimes the only way to know is by actually going through the experience. A person thinks that everything is for the best...
  17. osgart

    Let's Talk About Arthurian Legend

    I thought it was for love and honor, and a loyalty that mattered. That's what King Arthur represented to me. Go figure that he ends up all alone and in a civil war. Maybe it's par for the course that he ended up like that. Looking back on it Guinevere admired King Arthur, but fell in love with...
  18. osgart

    Let's Talk About Arthurian Legend

    I saw Camelot with the great actor Richard Harris as King Arthur at the local city theatre as a boy. I sat right in the front row. I remember being very upset at Lancelot, and feeling very sad about the Guinevere thing. I thought it was going to be a true love romance, and I felt that King...
  19. osgart

    Did we fail God or did God fail us ?

    Who is God though whom lets a serpent into the Garden to tempt? This contradicts your Bible quote of James. Also God being the Omni everything would certainly give lawful defense to the redeemable world, yet victimization happens all the time here on Earth. A perfect God enforces, and doesn't...
  20. osgart

    Can Atheists Call Life A Miracle?

    I'm atheist, but life is either a miracle or a fundamental part of existence. It's not a hum drum physical phenomenon. It's actually quite peculiar in a mindless physical world. A particular arrangement of molecules and atoms is not what life is. Evident by its properties, life is clearly...
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