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  1. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    What? By quoting verses such as 9:29, I'm explaining where Islamic terrorism comes from. This mythiical 'allah' character is telling people to fight, kill, and die so that he'll let them into heaven, and GUESS WHAT???? Some actually believe that, and therefore try to obey. There is exactly zero...
  2. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Nice try. Verse 9:29 was undoubtedly 'revealed' in a historical context, which most scholars agree was Mohamed's attempt to engage the Byzantines. But, the Qur'an (ie: Allah) doesn't say that, so clearly it doesn't matter. It reads as a command for all time, and that's how it's taken by those...
  3. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    That’s probably true. There are a lot of people who don’t want to hear the truth about what the Qur’an says.
  4. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    We are done. I will never reply to you again. There is a cancer on earth, and it has nothing to do with the Jews.
  5. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Screw that.
  6. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    What? I was referring to the so-called blockade.
  7. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Well, you got that exactly wrong. It doesn't say they're PERMITTED to fight each other. It tells you what to do IF they fight each other. Big. Difference.
  8. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Which verse tells you that? What? It isn't in the Qur'an, you say? If it should be known, then why isn't it there? Allah used 6,236 verses to get his message out, so if we needed to know that, then it would have been 6,237 verses.
  9. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    All you've done is verify that 5:33 doesn't condone 'murder', rather Allah's justice, if the 'offender' does something un-Islamic. However, said 'offender' ends up as dead as if he were murdered for any other reason. Do you even realize how much you support my arguments?
  10. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    That leaves you with two choices regarding the massacre of October 7: 1. The murderers of 1200 people weren't 'real Muslims', or 2. Those 1200 people weren't innocent. Which is it?
  11. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Okay, let's try this: I think that verse 9:111 tells Muslims that in order to get into heaven, they must fight in the cause of Allah - kill and be killed. How about if you read it and tell me what it 'really' means?
  12. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Yup, just checked the apologist play-book, and the strawman is sent out onto the pitch right on cue.
  13. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Apparently not. Most of the Qur'an that deals with what was happening on the ground in the time of Mohamed is given without historical context. The verses appear to be revealed as general truisms, applicable for all time, and independent of history.
  14. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    This is my favorite deflection. You post 5:32 in isolation - utterly without context, and then you accuse me of doing just that. You apologists need to get a different play-book. That one is getting dog-eared.
  15. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    I notice you (as do all Islamoapologists) conveniently left out the second half of that command contained in verse 5:33.
  16. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Murdering a fellow Muslim is a grave sin. As to the rest of us, just read 9:29 and 9:111 and get back to me. Btw, the order to kill is given dozens of times in the Qur'an, but I'm sure you know that.
  17. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    @Link, I have a question for you. One of my Egyptian Muslim coworkers told me that he admired Hitler for what he did to the Jews. In your experience, how prevalent is that sentiment?
  18. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Oh fer chrissakes take a breath. How is it not obvious that I'm talking about peace with Muslims, and not the whole freakin' world?
  19. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    What's absurd is that not matter how obvious these islamic terrorists try to make it that they are ISLAMIC terrorists, people still try to find ways to deny that they are. Take Hamas for example. Their 1988 charter could not be more obvious: Article Five: Time extent of the Islamic Resistance...
  20. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Verse 9:111 is very clear. Your claim is simply not true - "Arberry: God has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of God; they kill, and are killed". What else could that possibly mean?
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