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  1. stevecanuck

    Rejecting people or rejecting God.

    Sure he can. He's simply putting forth the possibility that religions and holy books are human inventions. There's nothing disingenuous or inconsistent about such a postion. What claims? Saying "perhaps" is in fact the opposite of making a claim.
  2. stevecanuck

    Quran says Christians who worship jesus and allah as their only god will be saved and muslims will go to hell for a few days.

    Verse 2:62, which at first glance appears to be contrary to everything we have read so far about unbelievers. It says, "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work...
  3. stevecanuck

    Muslims dis obey quran. quran isn 5:68 says uphold the gospel which says jesus is god muslims dont do it.

    You didn't read far enough. Here's the whole sentence - "Say, 'O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord.'" The underlined bit refers to the Qur'an. In other words, Mohamed is...
  4. stevecanuck

    Asselamu alaikum

    Did you read the Qur'an before you decided to become a Muslim?
  5. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    You're having a lot of trouble keeping your story straight. In post 162 you freely admitted that people who prostletyze for other religions are "corruptors". It's time to pick a story and stick to it.
  6. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Yes, it talks about war ...... AND .... people who spread mischief in the land. I made it bold type write to understand :)
  7. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    No it's not. Verse 5:33 VERY CLEARLY says that people who commit fasad "should be killed". It's literally right in front of your face.
  8. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    .... and therefore should be killed.
  9. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    I showed you three verses in which 'fasad' is tied directly to disbelief, and you don't have the courage to address them directly.
  10. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    You know, completely ignoring the points I make is NOT how you're supposed to debate and/or converse. Why should I go to the trouble of answering you if you just blow off my response and instead go off on another one of your avoidance tangents? Goodbye until you learn that.
  11. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Then there's this one: 7:142 - ... Moses said to his brother Aaron, "Take my place among my people, do right [by them], and do not follow the way of the corruptors." The 'corruptors' in this verse refer to worshippers of the golden calf. No physical harm to anyone occured. Your lies are obvious.
  12. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    You lie. 10:40 - There are those who believe in it [the Qur'an], and those who do not believe in it. And your Lord is most knowing of the corruptors. [This clearly states that disbelief alone suffices to label a person a corruptor.] 16:88 - Those that disbelieve and bar from the way of God --...
  13. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    That was pure avoidance. I was talking about the "strive upon earth [to cause] corruption" bit, and you know it. I'm talking about killing people in your religion of peace for the crime of committing 'fasad', which includes simply disbelieving in your religion of peace. And that was a...
  14. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Use your own words or I won't respond again.
  15. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    If you try really hard, I'll bet you could be more vague.
  16. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    That's one. And there's the other. Ya know, simply saying both or either of those aren't a real rebuttal. They're just convenient toss-offs that people like you trot out when they can't keep up.
  17. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    I'm not watching that. Use your own words.
  18. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    Nope. Allah is pure myth. As to the rest, it's all stated VERY clearly in 9:111. Again, nope. It's telling Muslims to fight and to subjugate. That process will create a Muslim state where none previously existed. For example, Muslim armies conquered there way across north Africa and into the...
  19. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    No, it doesn't. That's not what 2:256 means. Verse 9:29 says people must be forced to live under Islam, whether they convert or not. Disbelief comes under the definition of 'fasad', and 5:33 says those guilty of fasad should be killed.
  20. stevecanuck

    Regarding Islamic terrorism, what does 'radicalized' mean?

    True. The trouble is that the definition of "guilty" is very wide ranging and includes disbelief in Allah/God.
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