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  1. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Nope. I'm well aware that Muslims look at context. I look at context. I helps to understand WHY a verse is revealed. No disagreement there. What historical context does NOT change is the meaning of the verse. Get it now? Didn't think so.
  2. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Okay, show me how that works. I'm saying that if Allah needed Muslims to know all about Tabuk before 9:111 was revealed, he would have included the necessary historical context. He didn't, and since he's 'perfect', he wouldn't have made such a glaring omission. Now, using Tabuk as the...
  3. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Yawn. It's a strawman because you accused me of saying something that I in fact did not say. That's why it's called a strawman. Google it. Wow, a strawman about a strawman. That's creative. What? Is giving marching orders to a strawarmy the only thing you know how to do? But, it does serve...
  4. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    The suffix 'phobia' is a mental health term that has been repurposed by propagandists to imply hatred. Thank you for noticing. Only to the extent that I realize sharia is based on the Qur'an and hadiths. Sounds like to beginning of a story.
  5. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    I see two distinctions in that question. By 'Islamophobia' do you mean: 1. Hatred of Muslims for no other reason than that they are Muslim? If so, then yes. That would be bigotry. 2. Hatred of Islam as a religion, independent of those who claim to adhere to it? I have been reading the Qur'an...
  6. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Thank you for admitting that your previous accusation was a strawman.
  7. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    You just keep adding more straw. I never said one way or the other about whether Muslims think historical context is relevant to interpreting the Quran. That's been your strawman from the start. Please show me where I said that. I've said that I don't think it's relevant. I've also shown very...
  8. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Read 9:111. Now, check your news feed. Read the 1988 Hamas charter. Every mujaheed and every one of their supporters are in perfect compliance with 9:111, and have been for 1400 years.
  9. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Ya know, if you're going to pretend to miss the point by that much, there's just no reason to keep going.
  10. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Perhaps it isn't. This from the guy who claims early Islamic history can't be known because it relys too heavily on unverifiable hadiths. Did you think I would forget your posting history? Pick a lane.
  11. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    You completely ignored my point that when the Qur'an doesn't give historical context, it's not needed. So, why should I bother trying to communicate further with you?
  12. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Google Yusuf Ali. His CV with assure you of his credentials. I rely heavely on the 7 translations in corpus.quran.com Same as in English. Take the word 'head'. After running the options through my head, I decided it would be best to head toward the head of the trail. It's obvious what each...
  13. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    So long as you know what that meant, that's all that matters.
  14. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    In Islam, "good" is whatever Allah says it is. And verse 9:111 says it's "fighting in the cause of Allah, killing and being killed".
  15. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Agreed. Now, look up all 50ish references to "fasad", and you'll see that it covers all things and people non-Islamic. Then read the next verse to see how such people should be treated. (Again, I'm "thinking like a terrorist", because 5:33 describes what terrorists do.)
  16. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    This is the closest you've come to saying something useful. I'm sure you didn't mean to, but you've actually hit the nail on the head. My whole point in providing quotes from the Qur'an is to, as you put it, "think and interpret like the terrorists". Do you really not see that? I'm showing...
  17. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Meanwhile, Terror suspect arrested in Quebec was plotting to attack Jews in New York | Globalnews.ca Please tell me how the hell I'm supposed to know the difference between your cab drive and guys like this?
  18. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    Correct in essence. However, enough fluently bilingual scholars have translated it to give us an accurate a sense of each verse as possible.
  19. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    What historical context does the Qur'an give for verse 9:111? What's that? None, you say? That's right. None. That's because such verses (like the vast, vast, majority of the Medinan verses) do not come with historical context. Obviously there IS historical context, but apparently Allah didn't...
  20. stevecanuck

    Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

    How disingenuous can you get? The underlined part makes it sound like I'm taking individual words and rearranging them to suit some nefarious purpose. I'm quoting the Qur'an. Period. That's what it's there for - so people can read it, understand it, and take instruction from it. Another phony...
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