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  1. It Aint Necessarily So

    Do you believe the Bible is God's word?

    The fact that nobody achieves the level of conformity to commanded behavior tells you that it's not humanly possible. You might as well say that God gave everybody free will to defy gravity and just float upward but nobody wanted to try it. The Christians generally agree with that and proclaim...
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    Evolution My ToE

    These are both incorrect. We have mountains of supporting evidence for those claims. But I wouldn't expect you to know what supports those conclusions, so for you, of course it's all guessing just you're guessing that a god is responsible. None for you, but there is for the educated. You...
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    Trump using hurricane Helene devastation for political aims, lies about the administration

    And nothing else. Exactly. As tragic as Helene was and Milton threatens to be, their timing has been fortuitous regarding the upcoming election. Johnson showing his indifference toward getting relief to those in need won't be forgotten in four weeks. Nor will Trump's interference with the NC...
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    Evolution My ToE

    I do. The problems you mention don't impact our lives - not climate change nor drug abuse. Almost everything in my world is good. The world beyond our village has problems that don't impact us, like war, creeping authoritarianism, and extreme weather, but my life is easy and interesting, and I'd...
  5. It Aint Necessarily So

    Do you believe the Bible is God's word?

    It's very heartening to see so many people on this thread expressing their disdain for this religion so openly. We're calling it out on its claims to be a religion of love, charitable, and a shaper of good people. Too many people still think it's a force for good because they've been told so and...
  6. It Aint Necessarily So

    Do you believe the Bible is God's word?

    She's got you. Are you a real Christian? You seem like one to me. Except it's you that is expressing hated to her here. I don't need to ask if that comes from your religion. It's typical of the people it generates if they allow it. The best Christians believers reject all of that bigotry...
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    Do you believe the Bible is God's word?

    Mine as well. It reaffirms that my choice to leave that religion was a good one. He does a service to society along with all of the other off-putting things his fellow adherents do promoting hatreds and irrationalities. Modern telecommunications were the beginning of the end for this religion's...
  8. It Aint Necessarily So

    Do you believe the Bible is God's word?

    Failure? She escaped Christianity, which was a huge success on her part. So did I, and I consider it among my chief intellectual and moral accomplishments. You equate your religion with a Shakespearean play, but I see primitive mythology and magical thinking. And she didn't do the equivalent...
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    Teleological Argument (Aquinas)

    When you say artificially manipulated materials, the watchmaker may not think in these terms, but he recognizes that one is inorganic and thus doesn't grow or even move except that it experiences an external force. He has traveled through a heath of grasses, shrubs, and bushes, passing them all...
  10. It Aint Necessarily So

    Evidence That the Absence of a God is Not Possible

    Then you believe that that first life didn't come from previous life. That was my point: even creationists, who frequently say that life never comes from non-life, believe that either their god is an example of that if they call their god living, and if they reserve that word for things that...
  11. It Aint Necessarily So

    How can we amicably debate?

    If you mean debate in the literal sense, it's always amicable. If it becomes emotional, it's become a fight. Dialectic is the cooperative effort of two or more parties to resolve differences regarding matters of fact by attempting to falsify one another's arguments until a last, plausible...
  12. It Aint Necessarily So

    Evidence That the Absence of a God is Not Possible

    I don't see how you got that from my words, which were, "What it comes down to for somebody like me evaluating the claims of somebody like you is that you might be correct and you might be incorrect, but the first requires that your brain can do things that mine can't, and the second only...
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    Evidence That the Absence of a God is Not Possible

    Disagree. Just because you use the word logic doesn't mean that your logic is good. We all have the same access to whatever it is you think you are sensing. We have the same brains made of the same materials performing the same functions albeit some perform more efficiently and each of us have...
  14. It Aint Necessarily So

    Oklahoma schools in revolt over Bible mandate

    "Only the best people" Rudy's story has got to be the most shocking. In addition to losing a $148 million judgment, disbarments in two jurisdictions (I believe that only one is permanent), and indictments in AZ and GA, he had the Four Seasons Landscaping fiasco, the motor oil dripping down his...
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    Evidence That the Absence of a God is Not Possible

    That was in response to, "To provide a convincing argument you must show that given your statement the opposite of your conclusion could not be true." The process is not as subjective as many people seem to think it is. The proper way to evaluate evidence and arrive as sound conclusions about...
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    Evidence That the Absence of a God is Not Possible

    I'd agree with that, but not necessarily in those terms. Showing that an idea is correct makes competing and mutually exclusive ideas incorrect by default. It I thought it was Wednesday and evidence reveals that it is actually Thursday, doesn't that make it also being Wednesday impossible? But...
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    Help @JustGeorge paint her car

    I'm in the middle of that movie now - Mad Max Fury Road. You make me homesick. A boy is looking for odd jobs to do to earn a few bucks, knocks on a door, and is hired to paint the porch green. He returns an hour later with bucket and brush in hand to be paid, and explains that that was a...
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    Republican tells Native American to go back where you came from

    Let's see: bigoted/racist - check angry - check ignorant - check Yeah, that describes the majority of elected Republicans and those who vote for them. It describes Trump, who is beloved to American conservatives, but only if he can win and "own the libs." Some are defecting from Trump because...
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    Oklahoma schools in revolt over Bible mandate

    To accomplish what goal? What societal need is met by that? Those are typically college level electives, not core curriculum, nor information most people possess or need other than some world and national history. I never had a course in religion or philosophy. Grade school is for teaching what...
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    On Evolution & Creation

    We don't know. Some people guess at answers, believe their guesses, and call them facts, but guesses aren't knowledge. Some people speculate, meaning that they understand that their ideas are hypotheses and so don't call them correct - just possible, like the multiverse hypothesis and...
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