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  1. It Aint Necessarily So

    Trump Has Found Another Scapegoat If He Loses

    He is so tone deaf and insight-free. Who but Trump goes to a room full Jews meeting to discuss antisemitism and blames them for not feeling more indebted to him, singles them out among all of the groups that are voting for Harris all of which would contribute to his defeat which puts targets on...
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    Teleological Argument (Aquinas)

    I wrote, "Empiricism is the ONLY path to knowledge about reality." Reason/logic applied to evidence is what empiricism is. Pure reason like mathematics can generate knowledge, but not about nature. Once applied to nature, mathematics becomes part of empiricism. I wrote, "I know that you reject...
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    Members leaving -- and religious debate.

    That was a response to, "When one enters a debate, they inherently agree to subject their ideas to questioning and critique." He specified debate, which is dialectic, or the method of resolving differences of opinion about what is true. Scientific peer review, formal debate, and courtroom...
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    Teleological Argument (Aquinas)

    Was that a reaction to, "Empiricism is the ONLY path to knowledge about reality"? The empiricist is also a rationalist and respects pure reason (mathematics, philosophy) divorced from experience as a source of knowledge, but not knowledge of external reality until it is applied to...
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    Members leaving -- and religious debate.

    Agreed, but we do. Did you notice who brought personal insults to the discussion? A poster declared that she was unhappy hearing other views that she called woke and having her stated beliefs challenged, and that she was leaving RF because of that. I told her that she was probably correct in...
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    AI chatbot shows promise in talking people out of conspiracy theories

    That's the other side of this issue. While there are false conspiracy hypotheses, conspiracies occur frequently, by which I mean a malevolent or otherwise morally challenged plan made in private by two or more persons. There are two competing theories of 911, but only one is called a conspiracy...
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    Ryan Wesley Routh; second Trump assassination suspect, was a well know Democrat, in influential DNC inner circles.

    I didn't think it was staged. I thought that he actually was shot at and something cut his ear. But I also don't think he was shot. There is good reason to wonder if the Secret Service was complicit or incompetent, but there's little evidence for the former, and he's not entitled to the same...
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    Teleological Argument (Aquinas)

    That might turn out to be correct, but today, there is no evidence of that and no reason to believe it. Empiricism is the ONLY path to knowledge about reality. I know that you reject that, but you can't successfully rebut it, which is always the case with correct statements. Good question, but...
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    Ryan Wesley Routh; second Trump assassination suspect, was a well know Democrat, in influential DNC inner circles.

    It's not believable that he was hit by a bullet. He wore a piece of gauze taped to his ear for about 24 hours. He was almost certainly hit by debris shattering off something else that was hit. Notice that there was no investigation of the scene reported to report whether the teleprompter (for...
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    I'm Leaving

    If that's how you experience dissent, then a mixed, open forum with liberals and atheists isn't the place for you, and you are probably making the right decision. Then don't. Have them only with like-minded people or nobody at all. It's interesting that you point at older people and imply that...
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    Which religion has the best fruit?

    Look at the various subsets on RF. The ideology that generates the highest concentration of decent and intelligent people isn't a religion at all. It's humanism, which promotes reason, human development including formal education, social and economic opportunity, and empathy/tolerance/equality...
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    Her name was Amber Nicole Thurman ...

    I understand why you might not like reading opinions like that, but shouldn't you have tried to rebut it if you disagreed for intellectual reasons rather than it being unflattering? I feel very strongly about such matters and the harm Christianity is doing in America. I think my argument is...
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    Ryan Wesley Routh; second Trump assassination suspect, was a well know Democrat, in influential DNC inner circles.

    What he was that matters is that he was someone who wanted to kill Trump, had easy access to weapons, and Trump has normalized violence. Whether that was because he wanted to prevent a wannabe dictator from desecrating his country again or due to schizophrenic delusions or something else doesn't...
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    Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

    You had asked me, "You think Trump is a Nazi and like Hitler?" and I answered "[Trump is] authoritarian and a stochastic terrorist with no respect for the Constitution or the rule of law and has a desire to exact revenge on detractors. You can choose the word or short phrase that you think...
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    Her name was Amber Nicole Thurman ...

    You don't think that the anti-choice theocrats are responsible for that death, but rather, the physicians they terrified with their threat to revoke a medical license and incarcerate the physician for ten years are guilty of negligent homicide? No argument has merit to theocratic, anti-choice...
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    Her name was Amber Nicole Thurman ...

    The following video makes some good points about the logistics of getting one of these exceptions OK'ed. Apparently, it's not the doctor that decides when the life of the mother is at risk, at least not with legal impunity, as they were afraid to act. Also, who says, "Yes, this was rape (or...
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    which single issue do you think is most important

    Global warming followed by the rise of authoritarianism and the threat to democracy in the West.
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    Homophobia

    You had written, "My dislike of homosexuality is not so much emotional as it is logical." That's a simple, hateful, and erroneous comment. No logic was involved, just Abrahamic bigotry. You flatter yourself thinking that rejecting your ideas is not understanding them. Your thoughts are simple...
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    Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

    He's authoritarian and a stochastic terrorist with no respect for the Constitution or the rule of law and has a desire to exact revenge on detractors. You can choose the word or short phrase that you think describes that. Why is that OK with you? I don't. He's fascistic. To Trump? I don't...
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    Trump is losing the debate acting like a raving lunatic

    You despise Trump but support the party that venerates him and hope that Trump becomes president because he calls himself Republican. I guess that makes sense to you. Trump defines what it means to be a Republican today. Unfalsifiable beliefs about gods and afterlives are not knowledge to me...
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