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  1. SeekingAllTruth

    He is Risen - The Evidence

    Now it's my turn. Seriously, nPeace, I can't address all you wrote, I'm sorry. I appreciate the effort though.
  2. SeekingAllTruth

    What ONE critical piece of information made you decide to believe or disbelieve Jesus rose?

    Eh, who knows? (shrug)
  3. SeekingAllTruth

    John 14:6

    The best way, IMHO to understand this is to realize that the early church leaders were trying to find a way to bludgeon pagans into becoming Christians. They took their cue from the Greeks who used to threaten their citizens with eternal punishment in Hades if they didn't obey the civil laws and...
  4. SeekingAllTruth

    He is Risen - The Evidence

    God, where to start??????? How about this corker: "It was the followers of Jesus who claimed that Jesus was risen." Which historian will corroborate this?
  5. SeekingAllTruth

    What ONE critical piece of information made you decide to believe or disbelieve Jesus rose?

    That's because no other holy book is saturated with blood and mass genocides like the Old Testament. You should be calling it an "unholy" book. An alternative "Inerrant Word of a Mass-Killer God" is also not too bad.
  6. SeekingAllTruth

    The Fallacy that Jesus said what is written in the gospels

    Sure, no problem. ;) as long as you understand the basic gist of my OP: Jesus never said the words ascribed to him in the gospels. They were made up by the gospel writers. They had to be. No way around that historically. :)
  7. SeekingAllTruth

    The Fallacy that Jesus said what is written in the gospels

    You're off a little bit. No problem. You said epistles written 50-56 CE. I said the generally accepted year of Jesus crucifixion is 30 CE. 50 - 30 = 20. 56 - 30 = 26. Span according to YOUR dating of the epistles = 20-26 years. With me so far? ;)
  8. SeekingAllTruth

    The Fallacy that Jesus said what is written in the gospels

  9. SeekingAllTruth

    The Fallacy that Jesus said what is written in the gospels

    There's nothing rational about that except in a Christian's mind. You're actually saying an anonymous writer sat down and took notes while the HS dictated to him every single word Jesus spoke????????
  10. SeekingAllTruth

    The Fallacy that Jesus said what is written in the gospels

    You've got a point, cOLTER.
  11. SeekingAllTruth

    He is Risen - The Evidence

    I strongly suggest you look up the definition of "facts", nPeace. You're confusing it with "opinion."
  12. SeekingAllTruth

    He is Risen - The Evidence

    You're absolutely right. No resurrection occurred. Including Jesus.
  13. SeekingAllTruth

    The Fallacy that Jesus said what is written in the gospels

    I don't say definitively Paul didn't exist. Maybe he did. All I'm saying is I and others don't believe he was real simply because someone stirring up as much trouble as Paul would have caught the eye of someone--ANYONE who would have made a record of some sort mentioning him. Acts is anonymous...
  14. SeekingAllTruth

    He is Risen - The Evidence

    Yes, but an earthquake can't made dead bodies rise up and walk into Jerusalem. Get real.
  15. SeekingAllTruth

    The Fallacy that Jesus said what is written in the gospels

    I'm sorry. I don't know what this has to do with the topic. let me re-ask the question: the gospel writers (they were NOT Matthew Mark Luke and John, they were written anonymously) had no sources upon which to draw to get Jesus' words that we know of when they were writing the gospels some...
  16. SeekingAllTruth

    He is Risen - The Evidence

  17. SeekingAllTruth

    He is Risen - The Evidence

    This is sad---very sad. :(
  18. SeekingAllTruth

    He is Risen - The Evidence

    You haven't got any evidence. Your only evidence is that 12 men who we are not even sure were real--at least there is no historical evidence for any of them-- CLAIM they saw Jesus. That's it. And they didn't leave any written testimony behind. It's a rumor, hearsay, stories handed down from...
  19. SeekingAllTruth

    The Fallacy that Jesus said what is written in the gospels

    If you feel you can make a good case for the gospels NOT being anonymous, by all means please present your evidence.
  20. SeekingAllTruth

    The Fallacy that Jesus said what is written in the gospels

    Because historians generally use him as a reference point and I have to go with the majority even though I cannot find any definitive historic references to him.
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