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  1. Ingledsva

    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    Only later Christians claim Jesus is God and part of a trinity. We have shown over and over that the verses which are being read as Jesus is deity, - do not actually say that. And of course Jesus said he was the awaited Messiah, - and he never said he was a god, or part of a trinity. Messiah...
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    Which Bible English translation do you prefer?

    I have those above, and many more, including the Greek and Hebrew, on my computer. I like looking up the original language, and also looking at how earlier Bibles translated a text. For instance I have copies of a 1568 Bishop's Bible, a 1587 Geneva, a 1611 KJB, a 1889 Darby, and an 1899 Douay...
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    John 4:25 The woman said to Him, "I know that Messiah is coming (He who is called Christ); when that One comes, He will declare all things to us." 26 Jesus said to her, "I who speak to you am He." *
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    I understand that Jesus was Jewish. Jesus taught Tanakh. Tanakh has ONE God YHVH, and absolutely no trinity. Jesus never said anything about himself being part of any trinity. Nor did he ever say he was YHVH. He only claimed to be the awaited special human Jewish Messiah. *
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    You don't get it. You folks say Jesus is part of a trinity - AND is GOD. (Jesus himself never says this.) You used a pizza analogy. Pizza is actually a flat bread. People sometimes add things to it. The added things are not pizza, they are additions. YHVH is ONE. You folks trying to Add...
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    proof of the true God?

    We have discussed all of this. Women are secondary in the Abrahamic religions. Telling a slave she is a good mother, so you kids treat her right, does not make her less a slave. Yes women could inherit a small portion. Usually it went to a related male. The verse you are using is about a...
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    An olive isn't a pizza. *
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    ING - The Jews believed ALL people both good and bad went to SHEOL, where they awaited the end and judgment. I believe the reason the NT has Jesus going to the grave/SHEOL first - is because he was a human Messiah. ALL humans go to Sheol. The idea is that Jesus was the first to RISE from Sheol...
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    Isa 7:10 Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying, Isa 7:11 Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above. Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name...
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    No Jewish trinity. Isa 48:3 I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass. Isa 48:4 Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass; Isa 48:12...
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

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    Did Jesus lie?

    Are you referring to this - from Josephus's Antiquities of the Jews - "Testimonium Flavianum" "Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,--a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to...
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    Finding Myself..

    WELCOME! Just wanted to say the Catholic church is part of Christianity. *
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    Did Jesus lie?

    It also says the Messiah is supposed to be from the line of David. Jesus isn't. *
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    I don't agree with this translation. I also believe 20:28 is taken out of context. I have a paper on it somewhere but can't find it right now- so - short version. Joh 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. Joh 20:25 The other disciples therefore...
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    No there is no plurality in the Jewish YHVH. Christians mistake texts about his power doing something, or his grace, etc. However these are never separate triune BEINGS in one God. It is just the way they write about his power in action. And HOW did Jesus demonstrate that he was God? Read...
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    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    Conscripted Tanakh texts don't count here. They had ONE God, and Jesus taught Tanakh = ONE GOD. No trinity. Luke 2:11 says savior which in this verse equals the awaited Jewish Messiah, not God/YHVH. As for Titus it is interesting that AND OUR is left out. Two different beings. KJV Tit 2:13...
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    Did Jesus lie?

    I find no contradiction because he never said he was God/YHVH. He is claiming to be the awaited Messiah, imbued with the word of YHVH. Thus when you see his actions, and hear his words (Tanakh,) you see and hear YHVH. It does not in any way mean Jesus is God/YHVH, or part of a trinity, or...
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    The Qur'an or the Gospels: Which is more authentic?

    LOL! And the Christians hijacked, copied, and changed, Torah meanings to create their new religion! And mixed them with Pagan ideas such as an evil "Satan" character, and Hell. Scholars have noted that the Qur'an is closer to Tanakh and old Jewish writings concerning such. Old school STRICT...
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    proof of the true God?

    That is the weirdness of Christian and Muslim thinking. To me your Bible is just one of many religious texts. You folks seem to think if we just hear your Bible, or read it, WHAM, we believe in your God. It doesn't work that way. Many religions have good things to teach. I've actually studied...
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