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  1. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    I agree. Personally, I see little difference between the advaitin and Buddhist views. In fact, no difference of any consequence. Atman refers to the self who is practicing yoga, the self who observes, the self who is liberated from false identification with the aggregates, the cognitions and...
  2. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    No offence Spiny, but that is not a useful question IMO. What actually is anything ? It's the 'what is' part that is specious. What does 'what is' actually mean ? Welcome to Rogerian nondirective metaphysics, LOL.
  3. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    Can you prove it ? Where is the evidence ? But is it logical ? Has a famous sage said it ? Does it go well with mustard ? Etc etc.... Excuse me. That was a lucid moment. I couldn't prevent it. It just leaks through the cracks of the 'spiritual facade'. Atman is a word which refers to...
  4. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    How would you know if you had a look in your eyes ?
  5. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    Beautiful.
  6. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    It's all right when there's nothing left, LOL.
  7. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    So I guess the best way to answer your question "How would you know if you had an Atman ?" would be to take a leaf from Crossfire's book - "Wrong line of questioning"
  8. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    Not exactly. Mindfulness is a training of the mind to be present in your experience. Atman is who-is-present. So sati may lead to experience of oneself - Atman - but not necessarily. Traleg Rinpoche said awareness is not the goal of mahamudra (the specific teaching I received orally), but...
  9. Papoon

    Most persecuted religion in the world is.....

    The most persecuted spiritual practice on earth is psychedelic yoga. It has only been that way since the US government decided to demonize and ban all psychedelic substances. Prior to that, it has been the backbone of spiritual practice globally for millennia. Now it is punishable, almost...
  10. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    Then give an example of a 'clear answer'. How would you recognise 'Buddha nature' ? How would you know it is 'Buddha nature' ?
  11. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    My remarks were aimed at those who claim or imply that they have a stable self realisation, and yet wish to engage one another in arguments about .terminology and sundry irrelevant imponderables. Particularly, why would someone who is aware of Gautama's sutras about the pointless crazy-making...
  12. Papoon

    Where do you get your ebooks from?

    Good recommendation. Scribd is so cheap it's almost free, the selection is awesome and you can download.
  13. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    I have found there is no need for specialist jargon. All jargon results in reification, fabrication and utterly futile debate. In the end there is an inexplicable experience. What you call it is irrelevant. This thread is a good example of why Gautama warned against being obsessed by...
  14. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    Yep. And all without any need for jargon or orthodoxy of any kind. That's the take-home lesson.
  15. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    And again ...
  16. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    The same could be said for the LSD experience.
  17. Papoon

    Instrumental Music Only.

  18. Papoon

    Dharmic traditions only: How would you know if you had an Atman?

    Good question, and a question which reminds me of a post I made in Atanu's 'A Dharmic Question ' thread. Which was - "Buddha said that asserting there is a self and asserting there is not a self are both errors, declaring the question imponderable. Regardless of the conceptual framework, or...
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