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  1. atanu

    Who Are You?

    You are an app that has self-consciousness. I wonder what our IA enthusiasts are doing? Are they just trying to replicate you (and me)?
  2. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    And speaking philosophically, discarding 'Realism' as the de facto truth, has huge implications for us in our daily lives and when under extraordinary stress. In 2003, a boy named Bala fell down between two cliffs at Tirumala. He remained stuck between the two cliffs for six days before giving...
  3. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    The OP is meant to be a philosophical one and certainly not meant for debate. Furthermore, the debaters have entirely missed the implications of the conclusions of the studies cited. The studies have shown that theories based on the joint assumptions of realism and locality are not tenable. The...
  4. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    But I was opposing it in another way -- giving an example of a logical difficulty.
  5. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    Many particles? Where you got that? We are going in circles without considering the import of the papers that put questions over realist understanding. But you are bringing in examples that presume realism. I am not saying that the papers are the TRUTH. But if they are, the implications are...
  6. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    :D:D That is odd for several reasons and you probably know that. First, there is no such universe. All interactions that we record are interactions among objects, known by the subject. Second, when two wood pieces strike against each other and fire begins, you cannot say that the INTERACTION...
  7. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    I asked you a common sense question and you answered with quantum woo. 1. If objects a and b observe each other what observe them both? 2. Please read the paper under ‘c’ in the OP? …
  8. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    That is neither science nor good philosophy. Interaction=awareness is your religion.
  9. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    What is physical?
  10. atanu

    Must be Revoltingest

    Now it is clear.
  11. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    And what about observations of object 1 and object 2? Is there an object 3 that observes objects 1 and 2 …… and so on? (In my opinion, no one here has understood the simple point of Conn Henry).
  12. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    Can you explain please?
  13. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    Aww. Then we differ on more points.
  14. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    I am not sure I understand.
  15. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    What is physical?
  16. atanu

    Declaration of Independence is certainly ban worthy

    I differ marginally. Industrial Capitalism began in the last third part of 18th century. So, it was very early Capitalism in America. Furthermore, the statement from the Declaration of Independence seems quite racial, which usually is not the characteristic of Capitalism. My point is that there...
  17. atanu

    "Supernatural" and Naturalism

    A great post. I have the following to say. I will not use the term ‘supernatural’. If I am forced to use a word to denote that which always will be beyond ‘intellect’, I may use the term ‘pre-natural’. …
  18. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    We agree here. One step nearer. But I know your variety of ‘Monism’, and the fundamental difference remains. …
  19. atanu

    OBSERVATIONS ARE NOT OF THINGS

    I did not say that the papers support idealism. Please read again. I do not understand Physicalism — since it seems that there is a ‘promissory’ element there. I understand philosophical naturalism. Quantum mechanics does not support it, in my opinion. …
  20. atanu

    Must be Revoltingest

    Who else will steal fleas?
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