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  1. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    You just shifted the goal post. The original goal post was:
  2. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    To other Hindus: There is a necessity to prove God exists, because otherwise it remains an unjustified belief. If you cannot justify your beliefs, then your belief is blind and blind belief is dangerous. As I said earlier to somebody else, you can use a blind belief to cause somebody to do...
  3. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    I really don't get this. If you believe(as ridiculous as the belief is) that matter just self assembles all by itself, then what is the need for God in your belief system? You have to show me a single example, other than a Disney or Hollywood movie, where matter self-assembles itself into...
  4. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    Then you are not very well read in classical Hindu philosophy: This essay examines three classical Hindu thinkers belonging to two of the so-called orthodox darśanas who address the question of design in the universe and its implications for theism. The first two, Śaṅkara (c. 700-750 C.E.) and...
  5. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    https://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/08/epigenetic_chan/ Which brings us to epigenetics. Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744-1829) was an early evolutionist who proposed that life forms could acquire information from their environment and pass it on in their genes. He was dismissed, when not ridiculed...
  6. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    On epigenetics: we need both Darwin’s and Lamarck’s theories | Aeon Essays
  7. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    ^^ Ignoring the above, because as usual he is avoiding the issue and argument. I am now going to demonstrate an old Hindu Samkhya argument which uses a variant of the above arguments, in this case it places a blind man that cannot see but can walk in a maze. Like so: The blind person has to...
  8. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    The opponent cannot produce a single example of blind random aggregations of anything ever producing anything meaningful or useful. I have demonstrated this with my thought experiment that the circuit can never be assembled blindly. No computer program could ever blindly paint the Mona Lisa...
  9. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    Yes, as I expected, there is no such simulation which shows cells can be built by blind random collisions of particles. Nothing to see here. Moving on.
  10. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    I don't get your argument? A clock etc requires an intelligent agent, in this case a clockmaker, to make it. As far as I know a cell is the most basic unit of life. Please enlighten me what is more basic, or are you referring to abiogenisis?
  11. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    You've NOT proven anything. Send me a link to this alleged simulation where through blind collisions of particles they have produced a single cell.
  12. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    Again I repeat:
  13. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    I find a lot of this hard to read because of all these word salads. Are you telling me, that scientists have devised a simulation on a computer using random collisions of particles, where they ended up self-assembling into a a working cell with all its parts such as a membrane, a nucleus...
  14. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    Okay, the argument did not say there is more than one puddle, but then it argues that just because the puddle fits the hole, we cannot say the hole was fine-tuned for that puddle. If we assume there are many holes, then it means the puddle just take on the form of that hole. However, here the...
  15. Spirit_Warrior

    Why materialism is probably false: A Hindu argument

    Exactly, this is what I have already told Sayak. He is attempting to legitimise his religious Hindu beliefs in Brahman etc through Science by trying to present them as scientific theories using scientific language(word salads basically) but then gets a rude awakening when the scientists he...
  16. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    He has not been refuted, but you have not shown that any blind matter consisting of just particles reacting with one another could ever form complex functional systems. Well this is akin to, in my thought experiment, taking the mans blind fold off and giving him a circuit diagram to follow to...
  17. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    Absolutely, laws require a maintainer for those laws. That is because all these laws interrelate with one another, laws of chemistry are not separate from laws of physics which are not separate from the laws of biology, all these laws interconnect so that life can exist. More this, the laws...
  18. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    The problem with this argument is as soon as you speak of an entity called "God" you have already brought him into our rational universe, and then you have to justify this entity in our rational universe. This is why mystics should simply remain silent on something called "God" Otherwise, by...
  19. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    Again, you are using the term intelligence here in the sense of artificial intelligence and not real intelligence, like say human intelligence. It begs the question to say human intelligence is caused by the data processing of the brain. It is just as possible that human intelligence is outside...
  20. Spirit_Warrior

    Hindu Proof of God: Best Arguments

    Well this begs the question, because we already know that in nature these natural circuits do exist, but that does not mean that they assembled by themselves. The argument is arguing that only is nature possesses or was guided by an intelligence can these circuits exist. The design is the sign...
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