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  1. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    This is an article I found today which brings up a lot of points discussed in this thread so far: Yogi Adityanath as Uttar Pradesh CM: Modi is performing the last rites of Nehruvian secularism Secularism is finally coming to an end in India. A New India is born.
  2. Spirit_Warrior

    Anti-Materialism

    I had to laugh at this. How materialist, atheists and their sympathisers go out their way to deny any connection of certain behaviours to this worldview reminds me very strongly of how Muslims go out of their way to deny any connection of terrorism to their worldview. Of course modernity and...
  3. Spirit_Warrior

    Anti-Materialism

    Narcissism: The rise of individualism (with its focus on the self and inner feelings) and decline in social norms that accompanied the modernisation of society also meant that the community and the family were no longer able to provide the same support for individuals as they once did. And...
  4. Spirit_Warrior

    Anti-Materialism

    As long as your path is going up. It is not path if it does not lead to the summit. No, this is a materialist defence and it is not convincing. You are basically denying any ethical and moral connections to PM, when in fact they are implied. It is amoral because it does not believe in any...
  5. Spirit_Warrior

    Anti-Materialism

    ^^ This
  6. Spirit_Warrior

    Anti-Materialism

    But you don't actually experience the pain and suffering of the old lady. If she get robbed and murdered, it is her feeling the pain not you. If empathy was really a deterrent, then nobody would do anything that they would not like done to them to another, but obviously that doesn't stop people...
  7. Spirit_Warrior

    Anti-Materialism

    Simply saying that it arises from matter does not make it true. You need to show how and why it arises from matter. As I just demonstrated previously atoms only have physical properties, how and why would give rise to mental properties? Also a materialist onology assumes everything is...
  8. Spirit_Warrior

    Anti-Materialism

    You have done no such thing. Throughout this thread all you have done is ignore the arguments I have made and I have even pointed out how many times you've done it and showed it is a formal fallacy called "ignoring the issue" We could all win debates if we just ignored our opponents arguments...
  9. Spirit_Warrior

    Anti-Materialism

    I disagree with this. If you need to get somewhere and you are perpetually looking for a map to get to that point, you will never get there. Eventually, we need to settle on a map to take us where we want to go. If we spend out entire life theorising, we have to eventually agree on a worldview...
  10. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    It would be wrong to say the Nehru-dynasty Congress party have done absolutely nothing for India. Obviously over the last 70 years they have lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty and illiteracy and they laid the foundation of science and technology education in India, which today has become...
  11. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    Exactly, Gandhi was Hindutvadi, he wanted a new free and independent India based on "swadeshi" philosophy i.e.,indigenous philosophy. This included a decentralised government and an economy based on cooperation. But he lost out to the ideas of Nehru, who thought indigenous philosophy was...
  12. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    I am not saying all in the West is bad, I am just saying as an example of what is good like say parapsychology and transpersonal psychology or quantum idealism or transcendentalism is outcasted. That is because the West has for the last few hundred years assumed a secular materialist worldview...
  13. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    My version of Hindutva is far more faithful and authentic I think. As I argued in the anti-materialism thread, Hinduism is a worldview with an entirely different epistemology, metaphysics, ethics, cosmology and sotereiology from the secular materialist worldvew, which today we call the "Western...
  14. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    Of course we have right to be offended by the speech and opinions of others. The right to free speech allows one to make offensive speech, but it does not remove ones right to be offended. I think you are taking the Gita out of context here. The Gita is speaking about a perfect human, a yogi...
  15. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    Here at a list of banned films all over the world: List of banned films - Wikipedia Just the UK: List of films banned in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia From the above it would seem that banning certain expression is based on a variety of reasons political, religious, legal and civil. It does...
  16. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    I am fairly sure Kirran that Mein Kampth, Jews and their lies and wearing Nazi Swastikas is DEFINITELY banned in most Western countries. Also the Censor board in most countries bans certain material.
  17. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    There are different versions of Hindutva and sometimes it hard to define exactly what it is. For some Hindutva is simply the building of a Ram Mandir or making the national book of India the Bhagvad Gita or teaching about Mahabharata or Ramayana at school. This is what I think is just symbolic...
  18. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    I disagree. I think there are certain acts of opinion, speech and expression which have to regulated e.g. "Shouting FIRE" in a crowded theatre. I also think certain kinds of literature, say a book like "Jews and their lies" or "Mein Kamph" should simply not be permitted. Recently, Anuraj...
  19. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    Bhansali has deeply disappointed me recently. There is no doubt that Bhansali is one of the most talented filmmaker in India, his previous works HDDCS, Devdas, Black and Guzaarish have been works of art, immaculately shot, scored and staged. There are few directors in India that can hold a...
  20. Spirit_Warrior

    misuse of the term 'Hindutva'

    The difference here is Hindophobia is institutionalised. You will rarely find an academic who wants to keep their job write Islamaphobic books and articles, those that do get marginalised. Islamphobic attitudes are just considered the attitudes of uneducated layman who blame all Muslims for the...
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