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  1. serp777

    False dichotomy - science or religion

    I've never met, seen, or heard of anyone would ever claim that our motivations are determined by either science or religion. I would submit almost nobody thinks science and religion are a true dichotomy. Certain forms of religion are inconsistent with science, but i seriously doubt its a...
  2. serp777

    In what sense do we have libertarian free will?

    I think libertarian free will probably doesn't exist. I'm not sure what kind of free will exists, if any, but it doesn't seem to be very significant. I've never seen any evidence that free will exists and it seems like our actions, beliefs, likes, and dislikes are determined by our previous...
  3. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    I disagree the cause necesserily has to be supernatural. Because if the universe is eternal or time started at some point, then the idea of a cause makes no sense because causality requires space and time by any definition. There's too much I don't know about the universe to say that the cause...
  4. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    How did he appeal to a deeper mystery when he proposed gravity? he appealed to a set of equations and mechanisms for how gravity works which then explained many phenomena. Newton's equations didn't appeal to a deeper mystery, they just appealed to math. Gravity as an explanation can be...
  5. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    No one is saying God is nailed to a coffin and it would be logically incoherent to say God is at the helm of an eternal multiverse because then they both exist eternally. God couldn't have create or cause the eternal multiverse at that point, so God is a superfluous addition. It could be...
  6. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    Ok well your questions more clear, so i can actually answer them. Did you find a google translator from unintelligible to English or something? Not sure how your questions are equivalent to his, but ok. Because we explain things in terms of other things we understand. Solving a mystery by...
  7. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    This is what he/she said: "Like a deity shaping the world, s spirit overing over the waters?" It sure looks like an assertion in the first part and the second part is incomprehensible. "Like a deity shaping the world" looks like an assertion about something a God did. I was asking for examples...
  8. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    You don't speak for all theists and I can cite many examples of popular theists that use God as an explanation. And I agree it is beside the point as to whether God can serve as an explanation, so what? I think I understand just fine but feel free to actually make an argument that I don't...
  9. serp777

    Catholics what is your opinion?

    I want a specific verse that says that pedophilia was immoral. None of the content in the link you provided specifically says or implies that. Its an ad hoc extrapolation from several verses that I don't think even proves the point. The bible is as clear as day about owning slaves and not making...
  10. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    I don't see that as logically necessary at all. The universe may be infinite, or it may be part of an infinite and eternal multiverse, and even if that wasn't the case I don't see why I'd be justified in going to the supernatural. I would just say I didn't know. And what consists of the...
  11. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    Well many people would submit that free will doesn't exist, or at the very least that we don't have the libertarian free will that theists would generally promote. I don't know if free will is real, but if it is real I think that the operation and complexity of the brain is a sufficient hypothesis.
  12. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    But the scientific investigation of gravity revealed what it was and thus removed the mystery. The investigation showed us that gravity was a force that brought objects together according to certain physical laws. Once that determination was made, it lost the status of mystery.That's when we...
  13. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    That's a meaningless assertion. You haven't explained a thing. We explain things in terms of other things we understand and by explaining a mystery by appealing to another mystery, you've gotten us nowhere in terms of providing an valid explanation. And you've also contradicted yourself because...
  14. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    I don't know if that's true at all. How do you prove this? Right and that's totally problematic. Saying that time had a beginning is a misnomer. Beginning is always relative to some other time. So saying beginning to a time when there was no time before is nonsensical. We really can't say...
  15. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    God is to be explained? How do you explain God? Most theists argue that there is no explanation behind God. A false dilemma. There are models of an eternal multiverse. Also the idea of nothing is problematic. For example, if you have no laws of physics or laws of logic, then anything goes and...
  16. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    Well hang on, a ton of theists like Frank Turek, Matt Slick, Blake Guinta all believe that GOd serves as the best explanation for things like the resurrection, morality, the laws of logic, etc. So I completely disagree with you--religion absolutely focuses on the physical word, or focuses on it...
  17. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    Right, that's exactly why God can't be an explanation for morality, the origin of the universe, the laws of logic, etc, even though these are often attributed to God. If God isn't an explanation for anything then you really can't appeal to God for anything other than making assertions. You...
  18. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    God provides an explanation of mystery? That's just an assertion not an explanation. Magic provides an explanation of mystery, not God. See I can make assertions to.
  19. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    Magic has a general usage definition of being something supernatural that can cause anything without any rational justification. Magic is bound by almost nothing and can cause almost anything for almost any reason. Magic can create stuff, destroy stuff, affect people and otherwise affect the...
  20. serp777

    God can't explain anything and there's no rational way to demonstrate otherwise

    I don't accept your premise that this happened, and how are those explanations?
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