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  1. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    He's not trying to present facts, or even an acceptable narrative of facts. He's just trying to justify the labeling of Israel and Jews as "evil".
  2. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Only if you deny Jewish rights.
  3. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Am I the only one who has a problem with this?
  4. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Before we go too far down the "who owns the correct demographics" road, let's pause to remember what our goal here is. Its to create two independant, self-governing, self-determining States for two peoples, isn't it? Delegitimizing each other serves no purpose toward that goal. So let's just...
  5. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Not everywhere in Canada has -40C blizzards! Westcoast weather is lovely. Just sayin. You should give a whit about Balfour and San Remo since they are legal documents and ignoring the law is generally to be frowned upon, imo. But I agree with you about scripture not being a valid basis for...
  6. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Tom, well I can't argue with you about Canada. Grin.
  7. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    What makes you think that I think that Iroquois self-determination is not a human rights issue? What I am trying to illuminate here is the double standards held by those who believe Palestinians have inviolable, inherent rights and the Jewish people don't.
  8. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    You didn't see the post in question? Or you don't believe the post says what it says?
  9. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    No, its not. No more than Tibet, or Catalan, or First Nations peoples, or Kurds use ancient texts as a property deed. Its about being indigenous to the territory and having ethnic and cultural ties to the land. And I have absolutely no issue with your premise about unscrambling eggs. That...
  10. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    I was simply pointing out that you label me disgusting for believing in equal rights is nonsensical when compared to others on this thread who deny those rights and to one individual in particular who believes both you and I are animals and should be exterminated. It seems lop-sided.
  11. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    In your rush to assume ill intent on my part, you have entirely missed my point. People don't get to VOTE on whether or not other people have inherent human rights. That is why they are called "rights". My position is, and always has been, that BOTH parties have these rights on some portion...
  12. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    I have NEVER argued on this board against the legitimacy of Palestinian rights (because I believe they have those rights). In contrast, many on this thread alone have argued continually against the very legitimacy of a Jewish State, including yourself. Why is the belief that the Jewish people...
  13. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    You are, again, making assumptions about my beliefs. I believe that BOTH the Jewish people and the Palestinian people should have national self-determination over a portion of the territory. I believe these are inherent, humanitarian, legal rights that can not be delegitimized or stripped...
  14. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Why should Arabs get a "vote" on whether or not the Jewish people should have self-determination on their ancestral lands? Do the Jewish people get a "vote" on the establishment of Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq and Jordan? Should the Jewish people of those territories have fought and resisted...
  15. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    The problem is that you are assuming (as many do) that UNGA Resolution 181 (the Partition Plan of 1947) is the basis of Israeli sovereignty. It isn't.
  16. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Nope. Not at all. I NEVER use the religious claim as the claim for Jewish rights. Mine is strictly a legal argument.
  17. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Ack. Israel was not "originally drawn" in 1947. The "borders" have never expanded. They have only contracted.
  18. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Seriously? I don't even... So the entire basis of whether or not an ethnic or cultural group is entitled to self-determination on a territory, in your mind, is a map labelled with that name? There. Done.
  19. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    I agree. Sadly, I think its accurate. I think this thread does a fine job of demonstrating that the attitudes held by the Palestinian people are fairly common, and not just among Palestinians. This is especially true of two of the summary points. 1. That the Jewish people have no inherent...
  20. Shusha

    What Do Palestinians Want?

    Again, I assure you I am well-read on the subject. Instead of making suggestions for reading material on subjects I am fully familiar with, why don't you engage me in dialogue. I believe I asked you a few questions some pages back. Of course history is more nuanced than I can write in a few...
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