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  1. Sundance

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Has this been verified or is this your own conjecture? On the particular issue that was addressed, there is agreement among historians and NT scholars that the Baptism and Crucifixion of Jesus are the two events in His Life that we know happened historically, as extrabiblical sources bear it...
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    I see. Well, let me ask you this, as you are a Muslim. What sense does the claim I am addressing make? That Christians (and Jews) corrupted or changed the very texts that they wrote?
  3. Sundance

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Dude, Jesus’s (and subsequently, His Disciples’) understanding of Himself as ‘Son of God’ is unequivocally established in every single one of the Four. In Matthew chapter 16, verses 16 and 17: “Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." And Jesus said to him...
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    You got it, my friend. My friend, regarding your use of ‘Son of the Father’, while in one sense, you would be correct in asserting that Israel in the Hebrew Scriptures is called ‘God’s son’, this reflects only half of the truth regarding Jesus’s use of the term. He also used the term ‘Son of...
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Not if you’re using the New Testament as a vantage point from which to speak. He actually does a number of times, quite explicitly at that. He does, actually in both Matthew’s Gospel and Mark’s, which is the earliest. And the name of the Apostle who betrayed the Nazarene, did his name...
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Whenever He’s supposed to come back, much will be made evident to all.
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    1. Mary was Jesus’s earthly mother, yes. As you know, Christians believe in the virgin birth as do Muslims. However, if she was untouched, Jesus had no earthly father. His Father was God Himself, through the Holy Spirit. 2. Joseph, although not biologically Jesus’s father, was His father by...
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    I almost forgot this in my earlier reply to you, @exchemist. I’m no New Testament scholar myself, but the retrofitting wouldn’t hold up, on account that either Mark’s Gospel or Matthew’s was written first; these had already established Jesus as the Son of God, a miracle-worker, crucified and...
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    We do have 5,800 Greek complete or fragmented manuscripts of the New Testament available today, so I would argue that it is perfectly possible to establish what it taught originally.
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    He also says, “In my Father’s house, there are many mansions. If it were not so, I would not have told you.”
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    The vast majority of Christian denominations teach that Jesus was the Son of God, crucified and risen after three days, with the exception of a few groups.
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    That we do not have any direct quotations from Jesus Himself is true. However, we do have testimonies of people who were close associates of the Apostles who were there with Him. As to the chronology, you’re probably right. Though, the retrofitting of the theology to fit the narrative, I...
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    You as a Muslim say that Jesus never claimed that He was the son of God, yes? The Qur’an denies Him this, yes? This is surah 5, verse 116: “And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will...
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Muslims teach that the Injil (The Gospel) was given to Jesus. That say that Jesus, in the original Injil, claimed to be a prophet or a messenger from God, but not the son of God. They say that the Christians corrupted and changed the text.
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Yes absolutely, Rabbi. The reason being is that Muslims say that the Christian scriptures that exists today are not the same ones given to Jesus, yet they make attempts at trying to prove Islamic doctrine through those same scriptures. Muslims do the very same with your Bible. My point in that...
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    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    I’ve encountered many different perspectives on Jesus and the Gospel, from the beauty of the Bahá’ís (which is rather close, in my opinion, to the NT), to the mind-blowing conception of certain Hindus as an expansion or plenary portion of God (namely, Krishna or Vishnu) in the material world, to...
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    On Hell

    Upon reflecting on an article or two I’ve read recently about the origins of the concept of Hell, I’m still left to wonder about three things: #1. Did early Christians differentiate between Sheol, Gehenna, and Tartarus? #2. Why were these words all translated the same way in the Christian...
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    Tony Hawk 1 + 2 remaster

    @Nowhere Man was shooting for my target with SSX. I HOPE they bring back SSX On Tour!! Soundtrack, gameplay, the cartoonish art design....my dudes.
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    Do you believe that other religions or spiritual paths then the one you follow can be true?

    Religion, by nature, is subjective. Thus, there is no sense in saying “such-and-such religion is the truth”. If something is true, this means that it’s in accordance with fact and reality. What we know beyond doubt and disagreement. When it comes to religion, we don’t know too much as fact and...
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    Poll for Religious Monotheists

    Although as a monolatrist, this question isn’t addressed to me, since I am drawn to the Christian God, I feel that I can answer in a relevant manner. I don’t at all deny that the gods of other religions and cultures. Absolutely not. In fact, I personally unequivocally acknowledge and affirm...
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