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The bible and gays
Those laws could only cause "harm" (during mortality) if there was the force of government behind them. There isn't. Quite the contrary; you have the force of government on your side. You've won that debate. But, it seems you are not satisfied and will not be satisfied until you have rounded...- ether-ore
- Post #549
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
I see anger has entered the debate; especially since you are accusing me of being violent toward anyone. I have never been violent toward anyone, nor have I ever advocated violence toward anyone. Telling someone I think what they are doing is a sin is not an act of violence because all the...- ether-ore
- Post #548
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
I see, you don't like my point of view, so you accuse me of not listening to yours. I am listening; I just disagree and am presenting an alternative point of view. That is called debating. Jo, If my point of view offends you, there is an ignore function. Attempting to silence me by getting...- ether-ore
- Post #545
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
I felt I could only speak to what you said about where we came from. You left the rest of your comments undeveloped because you were tired and I took that to mean that you were going to return to those issues later. Besides, I'm not sure how to respond to reincarnation. I only have opinion...- ether-ore
- Post #544
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The bible and gays
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- Post #542
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
There are different covenants. God made one type of covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He made another with all of us before the world began and our part of the covenant was that we agreed to be judged by God's laws. but, I guess you do not believe in a day of judgment and that all...- ether-ore
- Post #513
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The bible and gays
If that is what you think, then anything can be construed of mean other than what it means. Oh well. No. and you are conflating different kinds of diversity. Being right for myself isn't my motive. Nothing to add here. did your children tell you that you were their father? Or did you...- ether-ore
- Post #510
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
If you do not believe in agency, then what do you suppose is our purpose for being here in mortality?- ether-ore
- Post #502
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
Read below further down for my answer.- ether-ore
- Post #501
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The bible and gays
We will just have to disagree about that. It is you that believes that God created homosexuals. I written several times in here why I do not believe that is the case.- ether-ore
- Post #500
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
No. I do not believe being Native American is an action, but neither do I believe that being gay is the same as either.- ether-ore
- Post #499
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The bible and gays
I believe God is eternal and that this isn't the first earth He has created and it won't be His last. If that is the case, then it makes little sense for Him to keep re-inventing the wheel each time He creates man. Yes, here is mortality.- ether-ore
- Post #498
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
Exactly what do you believe is the point of a debate? It is to pursued the listeners to the debate (and perhaps even the other side) that your point of view is the correct one. There is no other point to it. I'm aware that there more people (according to the numbers) watching the discussions...- ether-ore
- Post #497
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
Perhaps you do not want the verses in Leviticus 18:22,,, 20:13 and Romans 1:26,27 to mean what they do mean, but they are there. No, but I interpret it to mean so. But I acknowledge my interpretation has not been upheld in a mortal tribunal. We'll have to see about the heavenly tribunal. I...- ether-ore
- Post #496
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The bible and gays
What I do is challenge opinions. If you take offense, then that is on you for "not being tolerant" and "accepting me as I am" And as for your opinion about Paul, that is your opinion and nothing more.- ether-ore
- Post #487
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The bible and gays
By using the dog example, I was suggesting that it wasn't about homosexuality in animals, but that it was about the urge to mate. I don't think animals are homosexual per se, I think they just want to mate with something.- ether-ore
- Post #475
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
That is an unknown. My own belief is that it is simply the urge to mate that is at play. It is not homosexuality when a dog humps your leg. To the animal, if it moves, they need to mate with it... much as...- ether-ore
- Post #473
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
The source (or the innate instinct) for recognition of a sin is within the spirit of man but which can be obscured by the desires of the physical body. We are given agency and a body with desires and appetites which can be in conflict with God's laws.- ether-ore
- Post #469
- Forum: Religious Debates
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The bible and gays
Very well, you're stating it. God's laws are only subjective from a diverse human perspective. The laws as they exist, are objective as will be discovered on the day of judgment. We'll have to wait until then to find out. In the meantime, we'll continue to debate it. Yes, you are...- ether-ore
- Post #457
- Forum: Religious Debates